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Re: draft-ietf-marid-submitter-01.txt

2004-06-28 09:36:00

On Mon, 28 Jun 2004, Matthew Elvey wrote:

Only if you're assuming that the SUBMITTER is added following 'the 
rules'.  The spec doesn't say that mail with a falsified SUBMITTER 
should be refused or discarded.  (I hate all the pussyfooting around the 
discard option.)


Actually that was the original intent -- if it didn't get added to the draft 
it probably should be.  A message that claims a certain SUBMITTER but doesn't 
have that address in the right place should be rejected after DATA and should 
not be accepted.


Also, I have thought of a possible legal problem with SUBMITTTER - The 
US' YOU CAN SPAM bill, IIRC, forbids falsified headers.  Is the envelope 
part of the header? Arguably not.  If not, will future spammers  be able 
to send email with falsified SUBMITTER info but without falsified 
headers?  OTOH, the headers are misleading if they don't match the 
SUBMITTER, just like a Subject that doesn't describe the body is 
misleading.  So this is probably a non-issue.


The way it is defined, SUBMITTER needs to reflect one of the headers.  If the 
SUBMITTER says one thing and the headers suggest PRA is different, I would 
hope it would be rejected.  If the questionable message is not rejected for 
some reason, the MTA should probably insert something in the Received: line or 
next to it that says "MTA claimed Submitter was x(_at_)x"


--
Greg Connor
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of bunk.  Responsibility is when someone can blame you if something goes
wrong.  When you have power you are surrounded by people whose job it is
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