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Re: Point of Order: Incomplete, flawed response to MARID WG Charter

2004-08-20 09:40:39

Roy Badami wrote:

The only way that SPF can solve the backscatter problem is
if _every_ MTA implements SPF checks, so that there's _never_
an upstream MTA to generate a bounce to a forged MAIL FROM.

No, that's not the idea.  At the moment spammers still forge
my addresses @xyzzy.  As soon as some big providers implement
SPF (e.g. using SpamAssassin 3.x) the spammers will stop to
forge @xyzzy, because they want to reach all of their unhappy
"customers".  The rest of the world minus say AOL and Hotmail
is not good enough for a professioal spammer.

this will just take too long

Learning new tricks may take a while for spammers, but not that
long.  A smart SPF solution could automatically block an IP if
it generates a SPF FAIL.

Backscatter is a big problem now

Indeed.  And PRA does not address it.

The backscatter problem needs to be solved quickly.

Classic SPF solves it.  Bye, Frank