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RE: Motion to abandon Sender ID

2004-09-02 12:20:10

Hi Kevin,

I knew giving my short version humble opinion would raise more questions
than answers, not to mention my jet-lagged brain for the typo's.

To clarify, the purpose of this forum is not to discuss what software
Bell Canada plans to use to implement SenderID. If SenderID receives the
blessing of the IETF - we will create a plan to deploy it on Bell's
network. If you want to have an offline discussion on how/when we would
do this, I'd be more than happy to chat with you.

Most of the proposals have had limited testing, until we start to
support one standard as an industry - we'll remain in a holding pattern.
The holding pattern is a world where we turn our backs on phishing and
fraud.

Please allow me to rephrase my comment on Microsoft's support of the
protocol...Microsoft will help drive the adaptation, they won't act
alone. The open source community is one of the corner stones of the
Internet and never under estimate the power which they have over issues
such as this one.   

Thanks,

Jonathan



-----Original Message-----
From: Kevin Peuhkurinen [mailto:kevin(_dot_)peuhkurinen(_at_)hepcoe(_dot_)com] 
Sent: September 2, 2004 1:06 PM
To: Curtis, Jonathan (P010329)
Cc: ietf-mxcomp(_at_)imc(_dot_)org
Subject: Re: Motion to abandon Sender ID

Hi Jonathan.   Thanks for your input.    You say that you are going to 
recommend going forward with Sender-ID, even though it has 
gone through 
no real testing and has not been adopted as a standard yet.    Is your 
recommendation based solely on the belief that Microsoft's 
backing will ensure it's success despite the resistance from 
the open source camp or do you feel that it is a superior 
technology to, say, SPF?

Also, I have noticed that the MTAs that Bell uses includes the GPL'ed 
Exim and the ASL licensed InterMail.    Do you expect to have 
to replace 
these with Sendmail?

Thanks,
Kevin

jonathan(_dot_)curtis(_at_)bell(_dot_)ca wrote:


 

I am sure that we can come up with multiple conspiracy theories for 
this. For now, lets stay above the fray and assume that perhaps 
Microsoft was acting in good faith.
Descending into conspiracy theories will not make this any 
better, and 
quite the opposite, will make the entire discussion appear 
unprofessional.

Microsoft knows what the issues are, they are receiving 
comments from 
multiple people and sources. The decision on the license is 
upto them.
The decision on the standard on the other hand is upto the us.

Yakov


   


IMHO...(short version)

I will recommending that we move forward with the implementation of 
SenderID within Bell Canada (over 35,000 domains) as I believe the 
licensing component has zero to do with the technology and cost of 
implemention. The support that Microsoft will generate over night for 
this solution will drive global adoptation - something this 
solution is 
going to need to be successful.


Jonathan





 





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