I have found that apparently both senderid.net and senderid.org domains
are registered (to unknown party as whois info lists domainsbyproxy, but
registration is dated Oct 2003 and thus is prior to MARID):
http://www.completewhois.com/cgi-bin/whois.cgi?query=91739046&options=retrieve
Looking at the website at http://www.senderid.org it appears they are
adding "tm" to every use of SenderID on their website which makes me
think they may have applied for a trademark. The website appears to
indicate that these domains are related and setup by makers of software
called MailKey. I'm not reallyfamiliar with that company but I seem to
remember them being somewhatof an annoynance at ASRG last year with their
stupid C/R implementation, some people even decided to filter them out:
http://www1.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/asrg/current/msg02479.html
Here is how SenderID is described on their website:
What is SenderID(tm)?
SenderID(tm) permits the identification of inbound emails which have
"spoofed" (faked) "From" addresses. SenderID(tm) enabled servers also help
people to authenticate the origin of emails sent from them; so SenderID(tm)
messages can be trusted more than other messages. Using SenderID(tm) on
outbound messages helps to reduce the risk of Identity Theft.
The above description comes very close to wha MARID is doing (and appears
to cover it), futher on webpage it says:
What about legitimate exceptional IP addresses from which mail is sent?
SenderID(tm) v1.1 will be compatible with the SPF authentication system
developed by Meng Weng Wong. SPF allows the reverse look up, on the DNS
system, of the exceptional IP addresses from which legitimate mail can be
sent. Domains registered with SenderID(tm) can also list their exceptional
IP addresses from which legitimate mail is sent at SenderID.org. SenderID(tm)
software checks for the presence of any of these exceptional IP addresses
on its central registry
There is also a link to spf.pobox.com on their links page. So while I'm not
entirely certain if they are trying to capilalize on our work or not,
clearly their use of this name is in direct conflict to what MARID is doing
It does also that they have a seniority on use of this name as for example
is referenced in the following article back from Feb 2004:
http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_pwwi/is_200402/ai_mark1121481067
As such I believe their use of SenderID predated this WG and its our use
that is in conflict with their software and not the other way around. This
gives them very good standing in court and otherwise and it may become a
serious problem for us in the future, as such I STRONGLY advise this WG
to reconsider futher use of the SenderID name in light of this conflict.
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