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RE: Callout (was Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-opes-architecture-0 0

2002-05-22 10:15:02

marshal and all,
please use the thread 

[ OPES architecture] Final Points of Discussion: Tracing

that i have just started. 

abbie

-----Original Message-----
From: Marshall Rose [mailto:mrose(_at_)dbc(_dot_)mtview(_dot_)ca(_dot_)us]
Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 12:18 PM
To: Mark Baker
Cc: ietf-openproxy(_at_)imc(_dot_)org
Subject: Re: Callout (was Re: WG Last Call:
draft-ietf-opes-architecture-00




I just have one major comment ...

As I've stated here before, I can see no reason why 
"callout" receives
any mention in an architectural document.  Callout is an 
implementation
detail, where an OPES entity determines that it needs to go 
elsewhere to
accomplish its task.  Furthermore, not only do I not see a need to 
*identify* a callout protocol, I don't even see a need to 
standardize on
one.  The important interface is the one between entities, 
such as that
provided by HTTP, or other transfer protocols.  If you need 
to "callout"
to a service, give it an HTTP interface and call it an 
entity.  This is
how things work today with HTTP intermediaries (firewalls, caches,
etc..).


mark - the reason that callout is in the architecture is 
because we standardize a callout protocol. if we didn't care 
to have the protocol standardized, then you and i are in 
agreement; however, everyone i talk to in this space tells me 
that a standardized callout protocol is a real-world 
requirement. so, there you have it.

/mtr

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