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Re: [ietf-smtp] Endless debate on IP literals

2020-01-01 10:01:41
In article <98ba274b-5bae-eb20-cd9c-387165d9605b(_at_)dcrocker(_dot_)net>,
Dave Crocker  <dcrocker(_at_)bbiw(_dot_)net> wrote:

With respect to all of the low performance IoT devices mailing out
status reports, that's submission, not SMTP.
We definitely need to make it clear in 5321bis that submission and
SMTP are different

Hence, Item 2 of the items list that I posted.

I think it's stronger than your item 2.  Even if your mail sending
setup does some MTA-like things, e.g., relay messages from somewhere
else, if it can't act like a fully capable MTA, it's doing submission
and needs to relay mail through a fully capable MTA.

I'm thinking, for example, of DMA (Dragonfly Mail Agent), a small
almost MTA that I use on my small server boxes.  Even though DMA can
technically do all the things that 5321 says an MTA is supposed to do,
I have it configured to relay everything to the submission server on
my real MTA rather than trying to send mail directly.

The definition of a fully capable MTA is circular -- it's an MTA that
does the things that persaude other MTAs that it's a real MTA.  There
are no doubt people who will find that unacceptably vague, but that's


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