Keith Moore writes:
On 9/27/20 6:00 PM, Dave Crocker wrote:
gosh, Keith. Don't you consider 95% spam in email over the Internet to be a
degradation worthy of attention?
Of course I do, but ONLY if the degradation due to spam filtering is part of
Any "degradation due to spam filtering" is only due to the spam's existence
itself. If there were no spam, there wouldn't be any spam filtering to
degrade anything. Spam filtering is not a problem, it's a reaction to a
Furthermore, nobody has any real standing to complain about anyone else's
spam filtering. I have no standing to take issue with whatever spam
filtering you employ, no matter what I think of its merits. And if you don't
do any spam filtering, that's wonderful. However, neither do you have any
standing to take issue with anyone else's spam filtering, either.
Once this basic fundamental fact is established – that anyone is free to
configure their mail servers in whaever whey they deem to see fit and they
are no obligation to accomodate any external third party's desires or
opinions – then any pontifications on the negative effects on spam
filtering become nothing more than philosophical discussions, void of any
practical application. Anyone is free to campaign as much as they wish about
whatever undesirable effects of spam filtering they object to. They won't
have any effect. People will continue to use spam filtering methods that
work for them, and not the ones that some other third party approves of, in
Simple suggestion: Since you take considerable exception to common email
anti-abuse practices, how about providing a detailed plan for an alternative
approach and demonstrate its efficacy?
Simple suggestion: Why don't you stop pretending that this isn't a
problem? Or maybe, stop trying to change the subject any time this gets
What problem? I see no problem with spam filtering, whatsoever. And I see no
problem with EHLO/HELO domain validation. It's a very effective spam filter,
and I will continue to use it. I do not believe that I have a unique, or a
novel, take on this subject matter.
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