Focusing on the positive...
"end-to-end" is important, but relative to a particular
Protocol/AddressSpace architecture
The IPv8 cloud is end-to-end and can overlay on the IPv4 cloud.
The IPv16 cloud is end-to-end and designed to be native and fast.
Both can overlay on IPv6, which is generic and slow
http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/ietf/Current/msg12213.html
2002:<IPv4>:0000:<IPv8> vs. 3FFE:<IPv6>
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike O'Dell" <mo(_at_)ccr(_dot_)org>
To: <ietf(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org>
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 7:22 AM
Subject: OPES is evil incarnate
I can't believe what i'm reading here
the though of the IETF hosting a group whose primary purpose
is to attack the end-to-end principle is abhorrent. there is
no other both obvious and likely use for this "technology"
than unwanted interdiction. it is evil. "Just Say No."
yes indeed, sometimes people will insist on doing stupid
things, but they should go do them elsewhere, well away from
the IETF and certainly without the IETF impremateur.
the premise that by hosting them we might be able to
help them be slightly less stupid is just pointless.
creating an OPES working group will be a collossal
mistake the IETF will regret for a very long time
harumph.
-mo
Resident Crank
