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RE: IETF: v6 works, v4 is broken

2003-03-18 02:39:56
Pekka Savola wrote:

On Mon, 17 Mar 2003, Aaron Falk wrote:
Tom Marshall wrote:
I have found that IPv6 seems to have a much longer round 
trip delay than
IPv4 for just about every site that I have tried.  For 
example, pinging
www.rfc-editor.org from here gives me this:

  IPv6: rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 589.174/678.001/1109.953/117.776 ms
  IPv4: rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 8.346/48.524/130.290/37.593 ms

See note to ietf list from yesterday that IPv6 routes all 
go to Europe
before going anywhere else. :(

Better so than going to Japan first as the last time ;-)

Wow, I didn't know yet that postel.org & rfc-editor did IPv6.
Good thing :)

Albeit a bit on the slow side from europe:

jeroen(_at_)purgatory:~$ traceroute6 www.rfc-editor.org
traceroute to www.rfc-editor.org (3ffe:801:1000:0:2d0:b7ff:c0de:3) from
3ffe:8114:2000:240:290:27ff:fe24:c19f, 30 hops max, 16 byte packets
 1  gw-20.ams-02.nl.sixxs.net (3ffe:8114:1000::26)  19.811 ms  19.93 ms
20.14 ms
 2  Amsterdam.core.ipv6.intouch.net (2001:6e0::2)  19.367 ms  20.136 ms
20.228 ms
 3  3ffe:800::fffb:0:0:5 (3ffe:800::fffb:0:0:5)  181.746 ms *  181.91 ms
 4  3ffe:801:1000:0:2d0:b7ff:c0de:3 (3ffe:801:1000:0:2d0:b7ff:c0de:3)
182.807 ms  183.276 ms  182.283 ms

Then again the v4 path is imho even a bit worse:

jeroen(_at_)purgatory:~$ traceroute www.rfc-editor.org
traceroute to www.rfc-editor.org (128.9.160.27), 64 hops max, 40 byte
packets
 1  gw-64-92.sms-1.ams-tel.cistron.net (195.64.92.1)  18 ms  18 ms  18
ms
 2  ve10.rtr-1.ams-tel.cistron.net (62.216.31.1)  18 ms  19 ms  18 ms
 3  ge10-0.mpr1.ams1.nl.mfnx.net (193.148.15.122)  17 ms  17 ms  20 ms
 4  pos2-0.cr2.ams2.nl.mfnx.net (208.184.231.254)  19 ms  18 ms  18 ms
 5  pos3-0.cr1.ams2.nl.mfnx.net (64.125.31.169)  18 ms  18 ms  18 ms
 6  so-4-2-0.cr2.lhr3.uk.mfnx.net (208.184.231.45)  28 ms  29 ms  29 ms
 7  so-7-0-0.cr2.lga1.us.mfnx.net (64.125.31.182)  102 ms  101 ms  101
ms
 8  so-1-0-0.cr1.lga1.us.mfnx.net (208.185.0.233)  102 ms  102 ms  101
ms
 9  so-1-0-0.cr1.iad1.us.mfnx.net (208.184.233.61)  105 ms  106 ms  106
ms
10  so-3-0-0.mpr1.iad5.us.mfnx.net (216.200.127.10)  105 ms  105 ms
so-0-0-0.mpr1.iad5.us.mfnx.net (216.200.127.17)  105 ms
11  64.124.112.29.cogentco.com (64.124.112.29)  106 ms  106 ms  105 ms
12  p15-0.core02.dca01.atlas.cogentco.com (66.28.4.22)  107 ms  106 ms
106 ms
13  p14-0.core01.atl01.atlas.cogentco.com (66.28.4.161)  232 ms  321 ms
239 ms
14  p15-0.core01.jax01.atlas.cogentco.com (66.28.4.137)  124 ms  123 ms
124 ms
15  p14-0.core01.mco01.atlas.cogentco.com (66.28.4.153)  128 ms  127 ms
127 ms
16  p14-0.core01.tpa01.atlas.cogentco.com (66.28.4.142)  128 ms  129 ms
128 ms
17  p5-0.core01.iah01.atlas.cogentco.com (66.28.4.45)  144 ms  144 ms
143 ms
18  p14-0.core01.san01.atlas.cogentco.com (66.28.4.6)  183 ms  181 ms
182 ms
19  p4-0.core01.lax01.atlas.cogentco.com (66.28.4.77)  182 ms  181 ms
180 ms
20  p6-0.core01.lax04.atlas.cogentco.com (66.28.4.202)  182 ms  182 ms
182 ms
21  38.118.132.98 (38.118.132.98)  182 ms  182 ms  182 ms
22  lngw2-isi-1-atm.ln.net (130.152.180.22)  183 ms  182 ms  182 ms
23  boreas.isi.edu (128.9.160.161)  183 ms *  182 ms

Looks like we are routed all over the US for that host ;)

But it's good to see that it works, IMHO all the important (ietf etc)
hosts
should already have been doing IPv6 for quite some time, but:

www.ietf.org AAAA record currently not present
ops.ietf.org AAAA record currently not present
ietf.org                MX      10 ietf-mx.ietf.org
ietf.org                MX      20 odin.ietf.org
ietf-mx.ietf.org AAAA record currently not present
odin.ietf.org AAAA record currently not present

Greets,
 Jeroen