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Re: WG review: Layer 2 Virtual Private Networks (l2vpn)

2003-06-18 01:33:46
Pekka,

why?

I can think of some possible reasons, not necessarily exclusive

- this is a bad idea/impossible to do well, so we shouldn't do it
- some other organization is already doing it, so we shouldn't
- we're too stupid to get it right, so we shouldn't do it
- the IETF is too large, so we shouldn't be adding more work

From your message, I can't tell which of those, or of any number of other
possible objections, is the basis of your objection.

BTW - all these things were already being worked on in PPVPN. Some were even described in the charter.


--On onsdag, juni 18, 2003 09:27:49 +0300 Pekka Savola <pekkas(_at_)netcore(_dot_)fi> wrote:


Hi,

I do not think this WG should be chartered.

On Tue, 17 Jun 2003, The IESG wrote:

 1. Virtual Private LAN Service (VPLS)--L2 service that emulates LAN
       across an IP and an MPLS-enabled IP network, allowing standard
       Ethernet devices communicate with each other as if they were
       connected to a common LAN segment.

I *definitely* think we should *NOT* be working on this.

 2. Virtual Private Wire Service (VPWS)--L2 service that provides L2
       point-to-point connectivity (e.g. Frame Relay DLCI, ATM VPI/VCI,
       point-to-point Ethernet) across an IP and an MPLS-enabled IP
       network.

We shouldn't be working on this.

 3. IP-only L2 VPNs--L2 service across an IP and an MPLS-enabled
       IP network, allowing standard IP devices to communicate with each
       other as if they were connected to a common LAN segment or a
       point- to-point circuit.

We may have to work on the point-to-point L2 VPN case, but I'd like to
see  alternative approaches to this.

--
Pekka Savola                 "You each name yourselves king, yet the
Netcore Oy                    kingdom bleeds."
Systems. Networks. Security. -- George R.R. Martin: A Clash of Kings


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