*> From owner-ietf(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org Mon Jun 23 08:26:17 2003
*> Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 06:26:03 -0400
*> From: "vinton g. cerf" <vinton(_dot_)g(_dot_)cerf(_at_)mci(_dot_)com>
*> Subject: Re: non-complain mail system at alcatel.com
*> X-Sender: vcerf(_at_)pop(_dot_)mcilink(_dot_)com
*> To: Michael Richardson
<mcr(_at_)sandelman(_dot_)ottawa(_dot_)on(_dot_)ca>,
postmaster(_at_)alcatel(_dot_)com,
*> dns-tech(_at_)alcatel(_dot_)com, dns-admin(_at_)alcatel(_dot_)com,
alain(_dot_)sabban(_at_)alcatel(_dot_)fr,
*> hostmaster(_at_)alcanet(_dot_)no
*> Cc: info(_at_)cira(_dot_)ca, ietf(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org
*> MIME-version: 1.0
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*>
*> I would be interested to know whether Alcatel really believes that DNS
behaves in such a way that one MUST delegate at each "dot" - as far as I know,
it is NOT required to do so.
Of course it is not!! I'll bet you will find a counter example in
the DNS RFCs.
Bob
*>
*> vint
*>
*> At 04:01 PM 6/22/2003 -0400, Michael Richardson wrote:
*> >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
*> >
*> >
*> >Alcatel.com does not have a functional email system. It believes that
*> >all domains must have full NS-record delegations. I.e. that my domain
*> >"sandelman.ottawa.on.ca" must be a delegation from "ottawa.on.ca",
*> >rather than from "ca". (The .CA namespace has a single ccTLD)
*> >
*> >I have contacted Alcatel repeatedly by email and by phone in the
*> >past months, and I have gotten no response to this. A major problem is
that
*> >I think that only one of their MX's has this behaviour.
*> >
*> >So, I'm resorting to the only other way I have - embarassment.
*> >
*> >Specifically, it says:
*> >
*> >The original message was received at Sat, 21 Jun 2003 14:27:27 -0400 (EDT)
*> >from IDENT:root(_at_)lox(_dot_)sandelman(_dot_)ottawa(_dot_)on(_dot_)ca
[192.139.46.2]
*> >
*> > ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----
*> ><Donna(_dot_)Hogan(_at_)alcatel(_dot_)com>
*> > (reason: 550 sender ignored: ottawa.on.ca does not have a name server
record)
*> >
*> > ----- Transcript of session follows -----
*> >... while talking to primary.alcatel.com.:
*> >>>> MAIL From:<mcr(_at_)sandelman(_dot_)ottawa(_dot_)on(_dot_)ca>
*> ><<< 550 sender ignored: ottawa.on.ca does not have a name server record
*> >554 5.0.0 Service unavailable
*> >
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*>
*> Vint Cerf
*> SVP Architecture & Technology
*> MCI
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*> Ashburn, VA 20147
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*> www.mci.com/cerfsup
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