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Re: proposal for built-in spam burden & email privacy protection

2004-02-11 13:47:53
Subject lines for emails should be required to have only words that can be 
found in the dictionary.  This eliminates any spam like vi(_at_)gr@ or 
m0rtgage.  

The real problem isn't from companies who send bulk email and allow you to opt 
out.  The problem comes from people that are trying not to let you opt out.  
Not only don't they let you opt out, but they also try to get around your 
filters.



Original Message:
From: Dave Aronson <spamtrap(_dot_)ietf(_at_)dja(_dot_)mailme(_dot_)org>
To: Dean Anderson <dean(_at_)av8(_dot_)com>
Subject: Re: proposal for built-in spam burden & email privacy protection
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2004 10:50:00 -0500

On Mon February 9 2004 18:57, Dean Anderson wrote:

The IEMMC was formed in May of 1997 between Cyberpromotions and AGIS
and some others. Its goal was to encourage voluntary spam labeling
and opt-out lists, and to work out a compromise on spam between the
advertising and technical community.

...which must necessarily consist of something MUCH better than labeling 
and opt-out, but that was pretty much their limit.  Opt-out is a 
non-starter, so to speak.  It was pretty clear to me that the IEMMC was 
basically a PR ploy, to delay any real action.  IMNSHO, AGIS had no 
intention whatsoever of disconnecting, reining in, imposing conditions 
on, or in any other way not being a haven for spammers, so long as 
being a spamhaven was profitable.

One might say this is ancient history, but in fact, the IEMMC
position on spam was practically legislated in the CAN-SPAM act,

Yup.  Which means not that SPAM is in the CAN, but that spammers CAN 
SPAM.  They just have to do a few things that the anti-spammers have 
recognized as useless (if not worse) for well over ten years.

Long story short, CAN-SPAM is trying to pull the same wool over the 
public's eyes, that the IEMMC was trying to pull over the anti-spam 
community's.  Unfortunately, John Q. Public can't tell the fine worsted 
wool it's being sold as, from the cheap polyester it really is....

Disclaimer: this doesn't mean that hacking Cyberpromo was "right"!  I'm 
not one of your "radical abusers"....

-- 
Dave Aronson, Senior Software Engineer, Secure Software Inc.
Email me at: work (D0T) 2004 (@T) dja (D0T) mailme (D0T) org
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