Re: Email account utilization warning.

Could we try to keep our narcissistic eye on the ball here?

I realize that the only thing on this list that matters to you is you, 
and normally I do what I imagine most of the list is doing: I suffer 
your rants in silence. But recognizing this stuff is actually important, 
and if there are people on the IETF list who don't, that's a situation 
that cries out for attention. Please, for once, let's assume that you 
are *not* the topic, and stay on whatever the topic actually is. You can 
trot out your personal demons (or daemons, for that matter) under some 
other subject line ... and, by all evidence, you certainly will. In the 
meantime, let's not treat every message on this list as your personal 
song cue.
Is this really too much to ask?


Dean Anderson wrote:

> Given the recent unreasonable behavior by IETF staff where they really are
> blocking blocking of email from members, it is not very unreasonable to be
> fooled by such a thing.  People have come to expect this from the IETF.
>
> Dean Anderson 
> Av8 Internet, Inc 
>
> P.S. I am still blocked from emailing DNS WG chair, and prevented from
> registering complaint about improper DNS WG RFC process activity by ISC
> and DNS WG chair Austein, because the IETF chairman Alvestrand demands
> that such complaints be made offlist, yet chairman Alvestrand refuses to
> require the WG Chairs to accept email from participants.  Under chairman
> Alvestrand's leadership, the IETF can choose to ignore complaints based on
> the participant, rather than the merit of the complaint.  And Although
> this runs contrary to every stated principle of the IETF, contrary to many
> suggestions of many other participants, contrary to civil courtesy, and
> contrary to lawful behavior, chairman Alvestrand is not moved from his
> course.  He leaves us no choice but to engage lawyers against the IETF.  
> This is very sad.
> On Tue, 6 Jul 2004, Michel Py wrote:
>
>  
>
> > Darn Jasen, you just stopped the entertainment. It's a lot of fun watching how 
> > many could be caught by phishing.
> >
> > Michel.
> >
> > ________________________________________
> > From: ietf-bounces(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org 
> > [mailto:ietf-bounces(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org] On Behalf Of Jasen Strutt
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2004 7:02 PM
> > To: 'Trang Nguyen'; 'Sean Weekes'; support(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org; 
> > ietf(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org
> > Subject: RE: Email account utilization warning.
> >
> > Did anyone take mention of the virus infected file that was attached to the email?  Did anyone take mention that the header information is junk? I hope spam and phishing are not foreign terms to you. 
> >
> > Please perform 20 seconds of due diligence prior to jumping to conclusions and blasting the IETF list.  
> >
> > Regards-
> > Jasen  
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: ietf-bounces(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org 
> > [mailto:ietf-bounces(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org] On Behalf Of Trang Nguyen
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2004 1:57 PM
> > To: Sean Weekes; support(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org; ietf(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org
> > Subject: RE: Email account utilization warning.
> >
> > Same with me.  Please don't cut us off without reasonable explanation.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Trang Nguyen
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: ietf-bounces(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org 
> > [mailto:ietf-bounces(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org]On Behalf Of Sean Weekes
> > Sent: July 6, 2004 2:58 PM
> > To: support(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org; ietf(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org
> > Subject: RE: Email account utilization warning.
> > Please can you reinstate my account or at least explain in more detail the 
> > reason for your actions here.
> >
> > I'm not happy that you arbitrarily undertake this course of action without 
> > prior notification or discussion.
> >
> > I also am at a loss as to why you have done this.
> >
> > Please can you elaborate.
> >
> >
> > Regards.
> > Sean Weekes
> > General Manager, ICONZ
> > www.iconz.co.nz
> >
> >  
> >
> > ________________________________________
> > From: ietf-bounces(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org 
> > [mailto:ietf-bounces(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org] On Behalf Of 
> > support(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org
> > Sent: Tuesday, 6 July 2004 7:08 p.m.
> > To: ietf(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org
> > Subject: Email account utilization warning.
> > Dear user of Ietf.org,
> >
> > Your e-mail account has been temporary disabled because of unauthorized access.
> >
> > For more information see the attached file.
> >
> > Kind regards,
> >    The Ietf.org team                 http://www.ietf.org 
> >
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