I guess I am of the "less formal" type of person.
We can send omcplaints/concerns ot IAOC.
We ssume IAOC will handle/act on it
If they do not, we can start the recall process on them
Maybe I am just too simple minded.
Bert
-----Original Message-----
From: avri(_at_)psg(_dot_)com [mailto:avri(_at_)psg(_dot_)com]
Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2004 15:17
To: Wijnen, Bert (Bert)
Cc: ietf(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org; Sam Hartman
Subject: Re: bcp-02: Section 3.4
Well,
A letter of complaint requires no response unless there is something
that formalizes the requirement of response.
And if there is no procedure indicating that the IAOC needs to pay
attention to a letter of complain, that decision, i.e the one
to ignore
letters of complain, cannot be appealed.
So, as I see it, without a formalized process of complaint/appeal of
IAD actions we are left with no avenue to deal with problems
other then
by the yearly nomcom process and the IETF list.
On 11 dec 2004, at 22.18, Wijnen, Bert (Bert) wrote:
Avri writes:
Unless I am missing something in the document, there is no
way for a
member of the IETf community to formally ask the IAOC to review the
decisions of the IAD.
Since when would you not be allowed to send an email/complaint to
the IAOC ??
I guess you meant to say that there is not "formal way" to do so,
yeah, that is what i explicitly said.
but we're all adults and we CAN communicate, can we not?
what does being an adult have to do with it?
I don't understand. The issue is that there is no way to
make the IAOC
take notice of the communication.
I.e. I do not see why we would need to make a formal procedure for
this.
Because the lack of formalization leaves the IETF community without a
means to appeal decisions. And this decreases the level of
accountability.
And of the things I thought that were driving the entire AdminRest
process was the need for transparency and accountability. And as I
understand accountability in the IETF, it involves handling appeals
from the IETF community.
a.
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