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Re: New Last Call: 'Tags for Identifying Languages' to BCP

2004-12-14 06:51:09
Bruce Lilly scripsit:

There is in fact an "ietf-languages" list; RFC 3066 and the
draft under discussion give its submission mailbox as
"ietf-languages(_at_)iana(_dot_)org", which makes finding the real
list an exercise since IANA's web site makes no mention
of any mailing lists.  I made an educated guess that I
might find the list at alvestrand.no, and indeed the
list submission mailbox is "ietf-languages(_at_)alvestrand(_dot_)no",

Both addresses seem to work for posting to this list.  Not all
IETF lists have ietf.org or iana.org mailing addresses anyhow;
consider uri(_at_)w3c(_dot_)org, which is not a W3C mailing list but an IETF 
one.

The draft in question apparently seeks to get IANA into the
business of defining countries (and languages), usurping
those roles from ISO (as also noted in RFC 1591).

This is doubly incorrect.  To begin with, ISO defines neither countries
nor languages.  UNSD defines country-like objects for its purposes and
assigns them numeric codes, specifying them using English and French
names.  Then ISO assigns alphabetic identifiers to the names.  Languages
are not defined at all; ISO assigns alpha and numeric identifiers to
certain words which it believes to be the names of languages, without
always specifying exactly which language among those so named is meant.
Note the titles of the ISO 3166 and 639 standards.

The proposed registry will merely serve to stabilize the ISO mappings,
making it less likely that they will be gratuitously changed, because
it will not be under the control of an MA with unfettered discretion to
make changes.

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