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Re: New Last Call: 'Tags for Identifying Languages' to BCP

2004-12-12 10:13:15
Date: Sat, 11 Dec 2004 12:14:42 -0800
From: "Randy Presuhn" <randy_presuhn(_at_)mindspring(_dot_)com>
Subject: Re: Ietf-languages Digest, Vol 24, Issue 5
To: <ietf-languages(_at_)alvestrand(_dot_)no>, <ietf(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org>
Message-ID: <002f01c4dfbe$0d218f60$7f1afea9(_at_)oemcomputer>

Hi -

From: "Bruce Lilly" <blilly(_at_)erols(_dot_)com>
To: <ietf-languages(_at_)alvestrand(_dot_)no>
Cc: <ietf(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org>
Sent: Friday, December 10, 2004 4:54 PM
Subject: Re: Ietf-languages Digest, Vol 24, Issue 5
...
Eliminating bilingual descriptions for the language,
country (and UN region) codes leaves implementors
in a quandary.
...

Huh?  These are language TAGS.  If, for some reason, some implementor
thought it made sense to display one of these in a localized form (rather
than just using them to determine what locale, etc. should be used in
rendering some text) there's no requirement that the English-language
country names that appear in the registration be used.

That's not the point. The point is that under RFC 3066,
the bilingual ISO language and country code lists are
considered definitive. An implementor can (and has)
therefore use those lists for (e.g.) providing users
with menus (in either language) from which a language
or country code may be selected.  By declaring the ISO
lists no longer definitive, and by providing only
English descriptions of the codes in the proposed
revised registry which would be used instead of the ISO
lists, the draft proposal deprives implementors of
being able to provide that functionality (viz. an
official description in French of codes).

Indeed, a UI 
could just as well draw a map as display a name.

That would be awfully difficult for a character-based
UI, and would not be useful for language codes. Nor
would it be helpful for users who lack map-reading
skills, but who recognize "Allemagne" when they see it.

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