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Re: Why old-standards (Re: List of Old Standards to be retired)

2004-12-19 03:41:03


--On lørdag, desember 18, 2004 13:04:52 -0500 William Allen Simpson <wsimpson(_at_)greendragon(_dot_)com> wrote:

So, here's my promise to you.  I'll track down McGregor, and we'll
write something up.  I will work on moving my Proposed Standards,
assuming that the IESG is actually _interested_ in doing its job.
The proof will be in the pudding.  In earlier times, I expected to
go from internet-draft to Proposed Standard in 2 IETF meetings, and
to Full Standard in under 1 year on average, 2 years for extremely
controversial items.


Did you ever get what you expected....?

Yes, certainly.  And when I didn't, I helped lead the effort to reform
the structure of the IETF....  That worked for a couple more years.
(Without reorganization, we couldn't even have a IPSec WG.  Steve Kent
prevented it.)

The reason why I was asking was that I've heard statements that "we were much faster before" a number of times, while I've also heard lots of stories of things that took years to accomplish "before".

So I'd rather ask again, explicitly:

- Which standards did you push from first I-D to PS in 2 IETF meetings?
- Which standards (apart from the ones that were "born that way") reached Full Standard 1 year after going to PS?

At least we'd have a common understanding of the term "before"...

                       Harald




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