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Re: Issue #727: Section 2.2, 4, & 7 - Miscellaneous & editorial

2005-01-03 03:52:23
John C Klensin wrote:

--On Sunday, 02 January, 2005 08:19 -0500 Scott Bradner
<sob(_at_)harvard(_dot_)edu> wrote:


brian asks
Perhaps we do indeed need to explicitly limit the
IAOC Chair to chairing the IAOC. But we almost do - the
following paragraph says:

   The chair of the IAOC shall have the authority to manage
   the activities and meetings of the IAOC.  The IAOC Chair
   has no formal duty to represent the IAOC, except as
   directed by IAOC consensus.

Isn't this enough?

maybe the 2nd sentence change to

 The IAOC Chair does not represent the IAOC (unless directed
to do so   by IAOC consensus) and does not represent the IETF.

"no formal duty" leaves the IAOC chair to do so anyway and it
would be good, in the same place, to say that the IAOC chair
does not represent the IETF


Yes.  "no formal duty" implies that all sorts of representations
can be made and done, it just does not _require_ the Chair to do
it.  As Margaret points out, large dragons have walked through
smaller loopholes in the IETF.  Scott's proposed sentence is
_much_ better.


Sure.

Margaret Wasserman wrote:
> At 11:37 AM +0100 1/2/05, Brian E Carpenter wrote:
>
>>    The chair of the IAOC shall have the authority to manage the
>>    activities and meetings of the IAOC.  The IAOC Chair has no formal
>>    duty to represent the IAOC, except as directed by IAOC consensus.
>>
>> Isn't this enough?
>
>
> Yes, I think so.  That is why I'd prefer to remove the much more
> open-to-interpretation description of these duties that says that the
> IAOC Chair will have all of the responsibility and authority "normally
> associated with" this position.  In the IETF an extensive amount of
> power, authority and rights have been attributed to various Chair
> positions that go well beyond chairing committee meetings and
> representing the consensus of a well-defined group.

Well, let's not get diverted here from the IAOC chair. With the text
as suggested by Scott, I can't see any harm in removing the earlier
phrase as Margaret suggests.

    Brian

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