From: ietf-languages-bounces(_at_)alvestrand(_dot_)no [mailto:ietf-languages-
bounces(_at_)alvestrand(_dot_)no] On Behalf Of John C Klensin
I'd like
to suggest that everyone voluntarily declare a cooling-off
period...
Please don't try to
answer that question today, especially on the IETF list.
I'll respect that request. I'll only comment that I think both you and
Kristin failed to identify where the real dichotomies lies. For
instance, your second suggestion was to think about the contradiction
between the two positions, but in fact the supporters of the draft would
describe their position as involving elements of both of the two
opposing positions in your analysis.
Some of those who have raised concerns with the draft have expressed
frustration at not being heard, which is a reasonable complaint, and I
have made a real attempt to understand those concerns. (E.g. the last
sequences of exchanges between Ned and me; and my acknowledgment of
comments you've made wrt process and WGs.) Please understand that there
may also be frustration for supporters of the draft from a perception
that their position is not being understood, which may result for
instance from analyses of the opposing views that really don't capture
their position at all.
For my part, I won't say I'm frustrated by the analysis you gave; just
disappointed that I haven't been able to get us closer to the place
where we agree on what the dichotomies are, which I had hoped to do.
Peter Constable
_______________________________________________
Ietf mailing list
Ietf(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org
https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf