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RE: Voting (again)

2005-04-16 19:52:21
 Why do you think a decent-sized, randomly-selected subset of the IETF
 (i.e. the NomComm) are taking actions that are substantially more
 conservative (in terms of keeping people) than the IETF as a whole would
 do? The *whole point* of the NomComm is for it to have roughly the same
 views as the IETF as a whole, except in a smaller body. So what makes you
 think


1. There is nothing at all random about the selection process for nomcom,
since the pool of candidates is highly non-random.

2. The makeup of nomcom members has changed dramatically in recent years. It
used to be that a substantial fraction of the committee were people with
extensive IETF experience, both technical and process management.  That is no
longer true.

3. Nomcoms in recent years have frequently renewed highly problematic ADs,
under the claim that "no one else can do the job."  Even more bizarre, is that
it does not seem to strike anyone as fundamentally broken that a global
standards organization, for the technology of a critical infrastructure
service, would be subject to such a lack of choice, and that we ought to find
a way to fix it.

But really, if folks want to argue that the Nomcom is somehow a legitimately
"representative sample" of the rest of the IETF, there ought to be some
careful reference to sampling techniques and the rest of that realm of
research methodology.

Given the current IETF track record, in taking a very long time to produce
specifications that are slow to get adopted -- if they ever do -- we might
also want to wonder just a bit about that "rest of the ietf".  It was amusing,
at the last IETF plenary, to hear someone say that if we are no careful, our
good participants will go elsewhere.

As if that has not already been happening...


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