Re: WG management

Agree with Henning, with one addition - some IETF participants DO 
participate on their own time and on their own dime, but even 
participants who are paying their own way want to see progress.
Please, ask for these commitments. If a company moves someone and they 
are no longer able to meet the commitment, it's easier for them to ask 
to be relieved if the alternative is failing to meet explicit 
commitments. We don't have to have corporate commitments to have 
commitments.
If we send the message that a specification is needed "eventually", 
why would anyone - sponsored or not - make it a priority?
Spencer

Henning Schulzrinne wrote:

> Brian E Carpenter wrote:
>
> > To be blunt, I believe this is a direct consequence of our open 
> > door,
> > individual participation ethic. If you want firm resource 
> > commitments,
> > you have to ask corporations and other organizations, not 
> > individuals,
> > to make the commitment. When you have firm corporate commitments, 
> > you can
> > do resource planning. It becomes a different game. This is 
> > definitely
> > a case of being careful what you wish for.
> At least in the areas where I hang out, almost all participants are 
> paid for by (large) companies. The work is being done on company 
> time and companies often claim credit for their contributions to 
> standards bodies. We are not the local soup kitchen where people 
> serve for charity's sake. One would hope that somebody taking on 
> significant resource commitments clears this with their management 
> if it is not already part of their job description.
> Given the effective monopoly of the pen granted to authors, the 
> community has, I believe, a right to expect timely delivery in 
> return. This is no different from, say, being asked to chair a 
> conference in the IEEE and ACM - unpaid volunteers, but there's a 
> very definite expectation of performance, and mechanisms to 
> "encourage" such performance.
> There is the old saw about the "bias of low expectations". We 
> compete for time with other commitments authors (and WG chairs) 
> have. If we convey the message, implicitly at least, that our work 
> can wait, it will wait.
> Henning 


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