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Re: Last Call: 'Linklocal Multicast Name Resolution (LLMNR)' to Proposed Standard

2005-08-30 14:21:13
Yes, that is exactly what our unvolontary experiment has shown.
And it makes 25% of our root server traffic. It is stealing resources
from us. That is why we consider this protocol harmful to the
internet society.

Kind regards,
Peter and Karin


Stuart Cheshire wrote:
As I understand it, one of three things will happen:

(1) If the system implements mDNS, the .local domain is treated specially, so this just goes out as a link-local request.

(2) If the system implements LLMNR, there will first be a global DNS lookup for "twiki.local", which will fail. Then, a link-local name request will be tried.

(3) If the system doesn't implement any link-local name resolution, there will be a global lookup for "twiki.local" which will fail.

So, if people use .local domains on systems that implement LLMNR instead of mDNS, this can result in lookups for .local in the global DNS.

But, given that choices (2) and (3) involve the same interaction with the DNS, I'm not sure how one can argue that LLMNR makes things any worse than things would be without it. Perhaps you could argue that mDNS makes things better, but that is only true for this one non-existent TLD -- all three systems would generate a bogus global DNS query if I did a DNS lookup for "isoc.frog".

Margaret


There's one other relevant difference to note here: If you do a DNS lookup for "isoc.frog" you generate a bogus global DNS query. This is true. But... do you habitually do DNS lookups for "isoc.frog"?

Well, in case 1 (mDNS), no, because it won't return a useful result, so why keep doing it?

In case 3 (conventional DNS), no, because it won't return a useful result, so why keep doing it?

In case 2 (LLMNR) the answer is yes, all the time, if you chose to call your printer "isoc.frog", which LLMNR allows and encourages.

Stuart Cheshire <cheshire(_at_)apple(_dot_)com>
 * Wizard Without Portfolio, Apple Computer, Inc.
 * www.stuartcheshire.org


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