On Sat, 12 Nov 2005 07:38:40 +0200
"Romascanu, Dan \(Dan\)" <dromasca(_at_)avaya(_dot_)com> wrote:
I can ask, but I doubt that this information is available. What I know
Why on Earth wouldn't it be ? I am an IEEE member, and would not take it
kindly not to know how my dues and registration fees are spent. It's not
necessary to
get an exact number or see the contract, just get an approximate value.
Look at Ray's recent budget posts. The IETF is largely supported by
registration fees, meeting
sponsors, and ISOC. That says to me that if we want to have outsourced wireless
support (a new
charge, since this is now done by volunteers and donations), it will have to be
added to
registration fees.
It seems to me that the IETF community, since it both pays the registration
fees, and
experiences the wireless access performance, is best situated to determine
whether or not this
should be outsourced via a surcharge on registration fees. In order to have
this discussion
meaningfully, someone needs to get a good estimate (not necessarily a quote,
but not a guess,
either) of what it would cost.
Regards
Marshall Eubanks
is that the registration fee for the IEEE 802 Plenary meeting is
considerably lower than the one at the IETF (300 USD vs. 500 USD).
Regards,
Dan
-----Original Message-----
From: Marshall Eubanks [mailto:tme(_at_)multicasttech(_dot_)com]
Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2005 7:11 AM
To: Romascanu, Dan (Dan); Avri Doria; Ole Jacobsen
Cc: ietf(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org
Subject: Re: Please make sure that you do not run your WLAN
in ad hoc mode
On Sat, 12 Nov 2005 06:45:59 +0200
"Romascanu, Dan \(Dan\)" <dromasca(_at_)avaya(_dot_)com> wrote:
Dear Dan;
You should see if you can find out what it costs the IEEE 802
to outsource the wireless LAN, both total and per person.
Regards;
Marshall Eubanks
-----Original Message-----
From: ietf-bounces(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org
[mailto:ietf-bounces(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org] On Behalf
Of Avri Doria
Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2005 4:15 AM
To: Ole Jacobsen
Cc: ietf(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org
Subject: Re: Please make sure that you do not run your WLAN in ad
hoc mode
On 11 nov 2005, at 13.56, Ole Jacobsen wrote:
In 19 days, this very hotel and meeting rooms will be
filled with
ICANN attendees, most of whom are not "technical" in our
sense of the
word. That should be lots of fun :-)
It will be interesting to see if ICANN has as much
trouble, or IEEE
during the intermediate week.
I have heard an interesting bit of anecdotal evidence
that indicates
the situation is worse at IETF meetings then at other
meetings. I
questioned it, but who knows?
a.
I know. I am attending both the IEEE 802 Plenary meetings
and the IETF
meetings for many years. I can witness first hand that the
situation
is much worse at the IETF meetings than at the IEEE ones.
Practically,
the network is perfect at most IEEE meetings. True, I believe that
they are outsourcing the network deployment and its maintenance
during the meeting.
As I will be attending the IEEE 802 meeting next week (in
Vancouver,
but at a different hotel) I will be able to report by the
end of the
week how it was. Anyway, it hardly can be worse than at the
IETF meeting.
During this whole IETF week I could almost never connect during the
meetings. I had to wait for the lunch break when everybody
was away,
or to go to my room (at the 7th floor in the tower) to be able to
connect to the IETF wireless network.
Regards,
Dan
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