On Wed, 21 Dec 2005, John C Klensin wrote:
(i) you are obligated to demonstrate that sufficient
production-level deployment actually exists to justify
such a request and that it has been successful in
There is no wide deployment of DKIM. What is there are several test
machines on the order of couple dozen. There is larger deployment of
DK on the order of several hundred active mail servers doing signing
(including some large ones like outgoing webmail servers @yahoo &
google; DKIM is different and they all have to change anyway), but it
does not even closely comes to something that can be said to be wide
deployment or existing protocol.
What is there however is a lot of hype and marketing created by Yahoo
and associated organizations about DK & DKIM being a solution to SPAM
(which as we know is not really true). I do not think it's that good
when marketing is being used to justify going against IETF normal
procedures and instead of working out system on public MASS WG as
originally planned, to go around IETF and create proposal in private
and then present to IETF for a stamp of approval.
I also think that if allowed to be presented alternatives to putting
public keys in DNS, those would technically be found superior and less
damaging to internet. Other aspects of proposal also had alternatives
that are superior, but by bypassing MASS and presenting DKIM in current
form with constraints on discussion, all that "mess" is avoided. No
matter if we end up with good system or not, I believe in the end IETF
and internet in general lost on how it all happened because IETF showed
that it can be fairly easily manipulated and for Internet there is no
guarantee that what comes out as standard is technically best approach
to solve the problem and that such approach is really vendor-neutral in
how it was conceived.
But perhaps that marketing wins over technically best is how it really
works in the real life of corporate business (i.e. think about why
Microsoft products are used) and that is not as bad as I think that
IETF is being put inline with such vendor-dominated business world.
--
William Leibzon
Elan Networks
william(_at_)elan(_dot_)net
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