That is solving the problem for ourselves only.
802.11 is a classic case of what happens when unfinished technology is thrown
at consumers.
Think about VLSI manufacture, thirty or so production steps each with a finite
chance of error. If you have a 5% error rate at each stage your overall yield
drops to 20%
Computers are much more complex than VLSI manufacture, the explanations of the
technology are much worse than 95% accurate.
All my hardware is allegedly capable of doing WPA or 801.X. I have not got the
slightest idea what I would have to do to enable it though, or how it would
work, or what the authentication process would be.
It is unfortunate that the cryptographic failures in WEP obscured the much more
significant usability failures. The wireless world still does not 'get' it.
The result is that 70% of wireless access points are open and can be used by
Internet criminals to achieve anonymous access.
-----Original Message-----
From: ietf-bounces(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org
[mailto:ietf-bounces(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org] On
Behalf Of Ed Juskevicius
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 12:26 PM
To: Marshall Eubanks; Harald Tveit Alvestrand
Cc: ietf(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org
Subject: RE: Wireless at IETF
In addition to the content suggested below, I think a few
words on "Why ad-hoc mode is BAD during IETF meetings" should
also be included. Not everyone knows the issues caused by
ad-hoc mode (e.g. newbie attendees).
Regards and Happy New Year ...
Ed
-----Original Message-----
From: ietf-bounces(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org
[mailto:ietf-bounces(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org] On
Behalf Of Marshall Eubanks
Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 4:39 PM
To: Harald Tveit Alvestrand
Cc: ietf(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org
Subject: Re: Wireless at IETF
I think (and suggested to the IAOC) that there should be an
information sheet and / or web site for each meeting with
information on how to determine Ad Hoc Mode, how to turn it
off, etc., for all major OS choices.
Regards
Marshall
On Jan 15, 2006, at 4:10 PM, Harald Tveit Alvestrand wrote:
Tangential:
At the IEEE meeting following the IETF, someone asked me "how do I
turn off ad hoc mode".
I was hard put to find an answer for Windows XP with the standard
drivers (I use 2000 and a Cisco driver kit).
Suggestion: Make instructions *with screenshots* of how to
turn off ad
hoc mode on Windows XP available at the next IETF.
Harald
--On søndag, januar 15, 2006 15:23:01 -0500 Henning Schulzrinne
<hgs(_at_)cs(_dot_)columbia(_dot_)edu> wrote:
http://www.nmrc.org/pub/present/shmoocon-2006-sn.ppt
describes what
seems to explain the appearance of IETF6x named
computer-to-computer
wireless networks at IETF meetings. Apparently, there is a
feature
that
has systems automatically advertise the last AP SSID after
(involuntary)
disconnection. The slides are skimpy on details, but
provide a bit
more background than the usual "turn of ad-hoc mode"
exhortations at
IETF meetings.
Henning
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