The IETF has NOTHING to say anymore than any other body about any RIR
policy. I want it to remain that way. IETF job is a standards body not
a deployment body.
/jim
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-shim6(_at_)psg(_dot_)com [mailto:owner-shim6(_at_)psg(_dot_)com]
On
Behalf Of Iljitsch van Beijnum
Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2006 3:18 AM
To: Patrick W. Gilmore
Cc: shim6-wg; ppml(_at_)arin(_dot_)net;
global-v6(_at_)lists(_dot_)apnic(_dot_)net; IETF
Discussion; address-policy-wg(_at_)ripe(_dot_)net;
v6ops(_at_)ops(_dot_)ietf(_dot_)org
Subject: Re: [narten(_at_)us(_dot_)ibm(_dot_)com: PI addressing in IPv6
advances in ARIN]
On 16-apr-2006, at 6:09, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:
Wow, Iljitsch, I have never lost so much respect so quickly for
someone who was not flaming a specific person or using profanity.
Congratulations.
Well, that's too bad. But several years of trying to get a
scalable multihoming off the ground (flying to different
meetings on my own
dime) where first my ideas about PI aggregation are rejected
within the IETF mostly without due consideration because it
involves the taboo word "geography" only to see the next best
thing being rejected by people who, as far as I can tell,
lack a view of the big picture, is enough to make me lose my
cool. Just a little.
Back on topic, it is not just those 60 people - the "playground"
appears to overwhelmingly agree with their position. I know I do.
Don't you think it's strange that the views within ARIN are
so radically different than those within the IETF? Sure,
inside the IETF there are also people who think PI in IPv6
won't be a problem, but it's not the majority (as far as I
can tell) and certainly not anything close to 90%. Now the
IETF process isn't perfect, as many things depend on whether
people feel like actually doing something.
But many of the best and the brightest in the IETF have been
around for some time in multi6 and really looked at the
problem. Many, if not most, of them concluded that we need
something better than IPv4 practices to make IPv6 last as
long as we need it to last. Do you think all of them were wrong?
I am sorry your technical arguments have not persuaded us
in the past.
But I would urge you to stick to those,
Stay tuned.
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