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RE: [TLS] Review of draft-housley-tls-authz-extns-05

2006-05-24 01:17:20
Russ,

I don't think this is good use of "informative" text. Other
standards bodies often mark some sections of a specification 
as informative, but those sections are text that is helpful 
for understanding the specification, but is not required to 
implement it.

The KeyNote section is clearly part of the technical specification,
and required reading to get interoperable implementations of this
feature.

Also, my reading of RFC2026 is that the "Proposed Standard" status
applies to whole documents, and I found nothing there that would
support approving only some specific sections of a document as 
Proposed Standard, while leaving other sections as Informational
or Experimental....

Best regards,
Pasi

-----Original Message-----
From: ext Russ Housley [mailto:housley(_at_)vigilsec(_dot_)com] 
Sent: 23 May, 2006 19:59
To: Eronen Pasi (Nokia-NRC/Helsinki)
Cc: kent(_at_)bbn(_dot_)com; mark(_at_)redphonesecurity(_dot_)com; 
angelos(_at_)cs(_dot_)columbia(_dot_)edu; 
ekr(_at_)networkresonance(_dot_)com; ietf(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org
Subject: Re: [TLS] Review of draft-housley-tls-authz-extns-05

Pasi:

Steve Kent and Eric Rescorla made similar comments to your 
third point:

3) The document is last called for Proposed Standard, but contains
   a normative reference to Informational RFC (RFC 2704). I'd
   suggest removing the KeyNote stuff from this document (if someone
   really wants to do KeyNote, it can be a separate document).

I would like to propose a way forward on this point.  It involves 
three changes.

First, I suggest a different code point assignment:

       enum {
          x509_attr_cert(0), saml_assertion(1), x509_attr_cert_url(2),
          saml_assertion_url(3), keynote_assertion_list(64), (255)
       } AuthzDataFormat;

Second, I propose the following text:

    3.3.4. KeyNote Assertion List (Informative)

    When KeyNoteAssertion List is used, the field contains an ASCII-
    encoded list of signed KeyNote assertions, as described 
in RFC 2704
    [KEYNOTE].  The assertions are separated by two '\n' (newline)
    characters.  A KeyNote assertion is a structure similar 
to a public
    key certificate; the main difference is that instead of a binding
    between a name and a public key, KeyNote assertions bind 
public keys
    to authorization rules that are evaluated by the peer 
when the sender
    later issues specific requests.

    When making an authorization decision based on a list of KeyNote
    assertions, proper linkage between the KeyNote assertions and the
    public key certificate that is transferred in the TLS Certificate
    message is needed.  Receivers of a KeyNote assertion list should
    initialize the ACTION_AUTHORIZER variable to be the 
sender's public
    key, which was used to authenticate the TLS exchange.

Third, I suggest making the [KEYNOTE] reference informational.

What do you think?  Is this a reasonable compromise?

Russ 



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