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Re: Last Call: 'Atom License Extension' to Experimental RFC (draft-snell-atompub-feed-license)

2006-08-15 08:08:26


Frank Ellermann wrote:
The IESG wrote:

- 'Atom License Extension '
   <draft-snell-atompub-feed-license-06.txt>

| Licenses associated using these mechanisms MAY or MAY not be
| machine readable 

Isn't "MAY" always the same as "maybe not" ?  I'd read a "MAY
or MAY not" as "maybe not or maybe", and in that case I wonder
why you talk about it.


Gah, I thought I'd caught all of those.  Thanks.

| The IRI specified by the link's 'href' attribute SHOULD be
| dereferencable

Apparently RFC 4287 uses the term <atomUri> wrt href, and it
says that a dereferencable IRI is in fact an URI as specified
in 3987.  In other words, how about s/IRI/URI/ ?


Whenever RFC4287 says "atomUri" it means IRI.  I understand what you're
saying, but the value of the href value may, in fact, be an IRI.

| the presence of a license link relation within an Atom feed
| element does not extend a license over the various contained
| entry elements.

What else is this rel="licencse" about, if it's not about the
contained elements ?  


Note that is says contained *entry* elements. It applies to all other
contained elements.  In RFC4287, feeds and entries exist independently
of one another.  A feed produced by one entity can contain entries
produced by a different entity (this is commonly the case in aggregation
feeds such as the one you'll find at
http://planet.intertwingly.net/atom.xml.  It is inappropriate for one
content publisher to extend a license over content produced by another.

An analogous scenario is when I distribute some piece of open source
software under the Apache license.  The zip I distribute contains the
ASF LICENSE file. It also happens to contain jars for a number of
dependencies from other projects, all of which are individually licensed.

| Likewise, the presence of a license link within an Atom
| source element does not extend a license over the
| informational content of the containing entry.

Same question, what's its purpose if it's unrelated to the
entry ?  I'd get it if it's some kind of default for anything
below the next containing element.
 
If that's what you want a problem could be an overall feed
default with entries from other sources not providing their
own rel="license".

Maybe you could say that any atom:author or atom:rights not
matching the atom:author or atom:rights of the rel="license"
breaks the relation.  Or maybe it needs an explicit reset to
an unknown state, rel="licence" href="" (ugly, better solve
it in the spec.)


I don't see how this buys us anything other than increased complexity.

- James

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