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RE: DNS role (RE: NATs as firewalls, cryptography, and curbing DDoS threats.)

2007-03-08 06:42:55
DHCP: of course not, its routing address acquisition, not connection initiation
Default Gateway: Again no connection.

DNS server: of course, it’s a tautology that interactions with the DNS are 
mediated by the DNS, but again its not connection initiation.


The most complicated case here is SLP. The primary problem in SLP is that it 
has failed to establish a sufficiently diverse adoption community. There are 
four competing protocols in the space, few signs of life in any of them.

The secondary problem in SLP is that it appears to be grounded in the 
conception of the local network being the locally contiguous network. Using 
multicast is in theory more scalable than Ethernet broadcast and could take the 
scheme beyond the SOHO network. In practice you have to believe in Tinkerbell. 
I don't.


Since I can do everything that SLP does using the pure DNS and an announcement 
service that is my preferred option. If SLP was ubiquitously supported it would 
be a different matter. 

Getting three out of four camps to admit that their proposal is not likely to 
make it and converge on the fourth is likely to be very difficult and the spec 
that wins is probably not going to do so on technical merit. Again, its five 
years since this was all promised to the consumer. 

Grafting the schemas developed onto an existing infrastructure everyone already 
agrees on is probably an easier prospect politically.


-----Original Message-----
From: Brian E Carpenter [mailto:brc(_at_)zurich(_dot_)ibm(_dot_)com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 5:13 AM
To: Hallam-Baker, Phillip
Cc: Harald Tveit Alvestrand; ietf(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org
Subject: Re: DNS role (RE: NATs as firewalls, cryptography, 
and curbing DDoS threats.)

On 2007-03-08 02:06, Hallam-Baker, Phillip wrote:
OK I will restate. 

All connection initiation should be exclusively mediated 
through the DNS and only the DNS.


Would that include connections to one's DHCP server, SLP 
server, default gateway, and DNS server?

Hmm...

     Brian

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