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RE: are we the ISDTF? was: Let's look at it from an IETF oldie's perspective... Re: IPv4 Outage Planned for IETF 71 Plenary

2007-12-21 08:29:49
It is a different conception of engineer.
 
My conception of being an engineer is similar to that of a doctor over a nurse 
practitioner. A doctor has to be able to do any of the minor surgical performed 
by nurse practitioners (removing stitches, injections, etc.) but that is not 
where they provide input.
 
In the Roman army the engineers were the soldiers that designed the 
fortifications, roads, seige engines etc. The actual manual labor was performed 
by enlisted men and slaves.
 
My conception of Internet engineering is that we are rather too fond of 
performing the equivalent of manual labor. Configuring machines should not be 
work for any human, let alone an engineer. We need to become more intollerant 
of the need for configuration hackery, not less.
 
 
The computer asks to connect to the network and the network figures out how to 
support it. If the machine only knows how to ask for an IPv4 address its the 
job of the network to just figure it out.
 
 
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From: john(_dot_)loughney(_at_)gmail(_dot_)com 
[mailto:john(_dot_)loughney(_at_)gmail(_dot_)com]
Sent: Thu 20/12/2007 12:34 PM
To: Lucy Lynch
Cc: Bob Braden; ietf(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org
Subject: are we the ISDTF? was: Let's look at it from an IETF oldie's 
perspective... Re: IPv4 Outage Planned for IETF 71 Plenary



Are we the Internet Standardization Development Task Force? It seems by this 
thread, many of us are afraid to do any engineering and just work on emails and 
paper.  
I don't know about others, but I always liked testing some new technology at 
IETF meetings, but that seems less common these days.
John


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