Brian -
Section 3.17 - is a good clarity tool for better clarifying the scope of
these processes. But that same need for clarity also applies to 3.18 -
Section 3.18 - the Retention and Records Keeping section needs considerable
rewording. There are three key issues to address in the operations of a
mailing list and since these are not uniformly implemented the IETF is again
liable IMHO for its relying on any IP through a mailing list based service.
The three issues are the 'integrity of the content that is managed' by the
list operator. That means keeping the content in a reliable and provable set
of submissions. It also as the second constraint is tagged with a retention
period as well, i.e. a statement of how long the list operator commits to
operate and maintain that list for. The reasoning is simple - all the
participants in the WG have the right to recover that IP for some time from
those sources, so there is an implied expectation that the list content is
going to continue to be available. The third goochie is that the list
particpants also have the right to identify the other 'legal participants'
in the WG so the IP issues in the mailing list can be resolved.
So ... the wording needs to be amended to address the retention and
integrity in operations requirements as well as any IPR or other
declarations of 'representation' in the WG participation rules. This also
makes some changes to the definitions for NoteWell too I think.
Todd Glassey
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian E Carpenter" <brian(_dot_)e(_dot_)carpenter(_at_)gmail(_dot_)com>
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Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 6:23 PM
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Hi folks,
I produced this update at the request of Russ Housley. It's
considerably tightened up from the previous versions - now the
question is whether people are interested enough to comment...
Brian
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: I-D Action:draft-carpenter-rfc2026-changes-02.txt
Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 21:10:01 -0500
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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts
directories.
Title : Changes to the Internet Standards Process defined by RFC
2026
Author(s) : B. Carpenter
Filename : draft-carpenter-rfc2026-changes-02.txt
Pages : 28
Date : 2008-01-16
This document defines a number of changes to RFC 2026, the basic
definition of the IETF standards process. While some of them are
definite changes to the rules, the intention is to preserve the main
intent of the original rules, while adapting them to experience and
current practice.
A URL for this Internet-Draft is:
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-carpenter-rfc2026-changes-02.txt
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