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Re: Proposed Revisions to IETF Trust Administrative Procedures

2008-04-11 07:33:34
Dear Ray;

I support these changes. I have one nit.


On Apr 10, 2008, at 9:21 PM, Ray Pelletier wrote:

The Trustees have considered the comments from the list and propose  
the following amended revisions to the Trust Administrative  
Procedures.  The Trustees propose to take action at its April 17th  
meeting and will consider all comments received by that date.

2. The Trustees shall select one Trustee to serve as the Chair of  
the Trust.

a. The following Trustees are not eligible to serve as IETF Chair:
    1. ISOC President
    2. IAB Chair
    3. IETF Chair
    4. ISOC IAOC Appointee
    5. IAD

b. The term of the Trust Chair shall be one year from the time of  
selection or the remaining time of his or her tenure as a Trustee,  
whichever is less.  An individual may serve any number of terms as  
Chair, if selected by the Trustees.

c. The Chair serves at the pleasure of the Trustees and may be  
removed from that position at any time by a vote of 2/3 of the  
voting Trustees, not counting the Trust Chair.

d. The Chair shall convene and preside over meetings of the Trustees  
but shall have no other powers or authority beyond his or her powers  
as a Trustee.  If the Trust Chair is not available, then any other  
Trustee may convene or preside over meetings of the Trustees in the   
absence of the Trust Chair.

4. The Trust Agreement defines the quorum and voting rules for a  
meeting. Motions passed by electronic means between meetings shall  
be confirmed by a vote at the next possible meeting.

12. The Trustees are the current members of the IAOC.

I would prefer simply  "The Trustees are current members of the IAOC."  
as IAOC members who have not agreed in writing to become a Trustee are  
not.

Regards
Marshall

When a member leaves the IAOC for whatever reason, he or she ceases  
to be a Trustee. When a new member joins the IAOC, he or she becomes  
a Trustee upon his or her agreement in writing to fulfill the duties  
of a Trustee, as specified in the Trust Agreement.

a. If at any time the IAOC ceases to exist, or there are fewer than  
three Trustees, then the IESG, or its successor, shall appoint  
Trustees in accordance with Article VI of the Trust Agreement.

Ray

Brian E Carpenter wrote:

On 2008-04-10 07:04, John C Klensin wrote:

--On Wednesday, 09 April, 2008 13:50 -0400 Ed Juskevicius
<edj(_at_)nortel(_dot_)com> wrote:


John, you wrote:


Then recommend to the community that the Trust Agreement be
changed.

The Trustees are not talking about changing the terms of the
Trust Agreement, so this should not be necessary.

Good.  But I was just trying to suggest, following what I
thought I saw in Marshall's note, that, if the Trust Agreement
is defective, one could try to change it.  The other option is
to conform to it.  Ignoring it and adopting procedures or
polices inconsistent with it --even if one believes those
policies will never be triggered-- is a non-starter.


I am worried about the IAOC and/or Trustees adopting
procedures that are inconsistent with the Trust Agreement.

Me too! It is not the intention of the Trustees to adopt
procedures that are inconsistent with the Trust Agreement.


if anything is going to be said, it needs to be consistent
with the Trust Agreement _and_ reflect the desires and intent
of the community.

I agree.

I think we are in synch.

I agree with the above, and I assure everybody that the intent
was always exactly that. There's definitely an error in the way
the current procedures were drafted; it was my error, and I have
evry confidence that the current Trustees will fix it.

    Brian
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