Folks,
The exchange over netmod was one of the more pragmatic and encouraging threads
I've seen in the IETF in a very long time. I think it crystallized the core
criteria that ought to drive the decision for chartering a group.
Rather than filter them through my own re-wording, here are the tidbits that I
think stated things quite nicely:
Bert Wijnen - IETF wrote:
instead of discussing if there was consensus AT THE BOF (we all know that
at this point in time we DO have consensus between all the interested
WORKERS in this space,
Andy Bierman wrote:
The 15 people on the design team represented a wide cross section of those
actually interested in this work. I am among the 10 - 15 people who were
not involved in the design team, but agree with the charter. That seems
like a lot of consensus for this technical approach.
David Partain wrote:
The O&M community in the IETF has been talking about this specific topic
for a long time, both in official and unofficial settings. We've had many
hours of meetings where people from all various viewpoints have had hashed
out their differences. This all culminated during the last IETF in a rather
strong sense of consensus amongst those most interested in this work that
it's time to stop talking and move forward, and that YANG was the best way
to do that. No, not everyone agreed, but we DO have rough consensus in the
O&M community and with the APPS area people who were involved that this was
a reasonable approach forward.
...
So, what's my point? That everyone who cares about this work and is engaged
in it _does_ agree that we have consensus to move forward in this
direction, that there has been public scrutiny of the proposal, and that
it's time to move on.
Bert Wijnen - IETF wrote:
I propose that you list (again) your (technical) objections
to the the current proposal. If all you can tell us is that
we need to spend just more cycles on re-hashing the pros
and cons of many possible approaches, then I do not
see the usefulness of that discussion...
d/
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Dave Crocker
Brandenburg InternetWorking
bbiw.net
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