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RE: Appeal against IESG blocking DISCUSS on draft-klensin-rfc2821bis

2008-06-24 08:33:13

We have a way to count DISCUSS positions, but we do not have a way to 
figure out what percentage of them are perceived as "late surprises" 
by the community.  So, while we are taking action in an attempt to 
make things better, we do not have a way to measure our success or 
failure beyond community perception.  Suggestions on making this more 
objective and less subjective are greatly appreciated.

Russ

I agree that it might be hard to measure the effect of particular actions (e.g. 
changes in
procedures).  However, it is *not* hard to measure overall trends in 
performance, and
to break these trends down between areas and types of documents. 

My understanding is that the Simcoe dataset continues beyond 2001, and that 
with some
relatively modest effort, a detailed analysis could be produced quantifying how 
the IETF
has performed.  This would give us a window into what the actual results have 
been. 
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