Doug, Thanks for your response that shows your knowledge and expertise about
internet / computer things, common sense, organisational topics and also the
replacing k/K to unicode 0915 glyph shape issue.
"........You might as well send your message to your MP or to the Queen, for
all the good it will do to send it to IETF."
Airing the issue to the internet / computer community.
"I don't speak for their mailing-list administrator........."
The Unicode.org website home page copy that I quoted is not factual.
"Accusing an organization of process failure and insensitivity and stubbornness
is not usually a productive way to get them to come around to your point of
view."
The Unicode.org website page copy that I quoted is not factual.
"You have stipulated that this constitutes........"
The Unicode.org website page copy that I quoted is not factual. There should
be some limitations. They don't have a demo that proves the first quote and
the Unicode.org is not a framework.
".......You are accusing Unicode of things it is not responsible for. This is
like blaming the weatherman when it rains."
The Unicode.org website page copy that I quoted is not factual. There should
be some limitations. They should clarify what they are not responsible for.
Their home page copy that I quoted is a trap for Unicode.org and readers.
"You are trying to change the basic form of a letter that has existed in the
Latin alphabet for over two thousand years, on the basis of an association
between the K glyph and the intersection of three rivers, derived loosely from
a secondary Krishna text. ["that the letter K represents suicide and needs to
be changed"] You are trying to change the basic form of a letter recognized by
billions of people, and one of your first moves is to approach an international
standards-making organization, which does NOT standardize the Latin alphabet
itself and is NOT in the business of deciding what letters are supposed to look
like, and accuse them of improper conduct because they do not immediately
modify their charts and develop new fonts based on your views, which so far I
have only heard from ONE person. To say you are outside the mainstream would
be a serious understatement."
The latin / roman k/K letter needs to be replaced to another shape for reasons
you know. You have to understand that issue is beyond organisational
management because it is related to human life. Approaching Unicode.org and
IETF.org was essential because they claim to have various controls over
internet / computer transmitted language. Some helpful interim things should
be put in place, leadership and management is much needed. Unicode.org website
home page communicates the wrong impression and they should correct that.
"Style of what?....Content of what? The standard is described in excruciating
detail at http://www.unicode.org/versions/Unicode5.1.0/ ......Unicode doesn't
tell people how to design user interfaces. That is completely up to
application developers, as it should be.....See
http://www.unicode.org/consortium/join.html .....Unicode doesn't tell people
how to build applications, whether open-source or proprietary. Do you feel it
should?"
Thus Unicode.org has not any framework. Certain programmers thus become
baffled. The Unicode.org home page copy that I quoted is not factual. There
should be some limitations.
"It does not say that it will take you by the hand and show you how to program,
configure, or use a computer in any language."
Unicode.org are unjustly saying things on the website home page copy that I
quoted, they are not communicating there what they are not responsible for.
They are leaving this to other imaginations and trapping themselves and others.
"Unicode makes it possible to put tens of thousands of different characters on
a .....a plain-text document"
I refer to .txt files, are you also suggesting that you can put save a .txt
file on the computer that has unicode 0915 glyph shape?
"What sort of "framework" are you looking for to accomplish your goals? Be
specific, please, for once."
I was being specific that there is not any framework about Style, Content, User
Interface, Membership and Extensions, these generic areas that can help
Software Internationalisation otherwise certain programmers would not get
baffled for example at particular opensource code applications when they are
asked to remove all k/K letters and replace them with unicode 0915 glyph shape.
There should be some catch-all process / principle at header and footer of a
code for example BBCode / HTML has this and this principle perhaps should be
considered to ease the burden. I am not a coder / programmer thus I am not
sure whether this way is possible.
"......It can *only* mean granting of favors, such as employment or political
status, to personal relatives regardless of their qualifications. You can say
"corporate nepotism" if you like and English speakers will automatically
interpret this as "someone in a corporation was made vice-president because he
was someone else's brother, not because he deserved it." Nobody will interpret
this as "collusion between corporations" or "unfair bias." You need to pick
another word that really means what you want it to mean. Nobody can stop you
from misusing this word if you insist, but they are within their rights to
laugh and ignore you."
I saw the Wikipedia "nepotism" meaning and it includes "friends" not only
"relatives." Thus "nepotism" is a problem at organisational and corporate
networks. This includes Unicode.org and IETF.org. Leadership and management
are required to prevent this.
"When the day comes when you convince a SIGNIFICANT number of Latin-script
users, worldwide, that the letter K represents suicide and needs to be changed,
THEN it is time to approach the standards organizations *respectfully* and ask
them to make changes that reflect a change that a SIGNIFICANT number of people
have already adopted. It needs to be something people see in newspapers and on
street signs and on television. Until then, this effort will not be seen
constructively."
I repeat.....The latin / roman k/K letter needs to be replaced to another shape
for reasons you know. You have to understand that issue is beyond
organisational management because it is related to human life. Approaching
Unicode.org and IETF.org was essential because they claim to have various
controls over internet / computer transmitted language. Some helpful interim
things should be put in place, leadership and management is much needed.
Unicode.org website home page communicates the wrong impression and they should
correct that.
John, Thanks for your response.
Unicode.org don't want to listen anymore when it relates to their website home
page because they blocked my message to the mailing list that was critical
about this. Unicode.org should say categorically they are not responsible for
framework. However they are communicating the wrong impression to the internet
/ computer community.
Regards
Meeku
http://twitter.com/nepotism
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