----- Original Message -----
From: "Russ Housley" <housley(_at_)vigilsec(_dot_)com>
To: "Tom.Petch" sisyphus(_at_)dial(_dot_)pipex(_dot_)com
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 10:36 PM
Correction: RFC 5378 was published on 10 November 2008.
http://mailman.rfc-editor.org/pipermail/rfc-dist/2008-November/002142.html
Thanks for the correction. I was about to point out that the latest draft
licence from the IETF Trust refers in 5c to material published 'before November
10, 2008' but this now makes sense.
( In passing, the reference to November 12th was a mistake on my part; I was
looking at Ed's announcement which spoke of the new rules coming in force
'today' and which my e-mail client tells me is November 12th. I should of
course have looked at the e-mail headers and seen that he submitted the e-mail
so as to generate
'Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1])
by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C51A28C173;
Tue, 11 Nov 2008 15:40:08 -0800 (PST)'
which for GMT or places West is November 11th:-(
Whatever, November 10th it is.
What then is post-5378? Is it material published on or after November 10th?
Tom Petch
Russ
At 11:20 AM 1/14/2009, Russ Housley wrote:
Tom:
RFC 5378 was published on 11 November 2008, and it went into effect
on that date. Pre-5378 material refers to contributions that were
made before the BCP went into effect. I do not believe that anyone
tracked the posting time at a finer granularity than a day.
Russ
The At 04:41 AM 1/14/2009, Tom.Petch wrote:
Russ
I would like greater clarity about the meaning of pre-5378.
Ed's original announcement said that the new regime was in effect from 12
November 2008 (no time specified).
Ed's revised text uses 'before 10 November 2008' (no time specified).
Ed's original announcement also placed significance on 0100 UTC on
16th December
appearing to allow a grace period up until then during which 5378 was not in
effect, since old boiler plate was acceptable.
We appear to have four zones of time (up to 23:59:59 9th Nov, 10th/11th Nov,
12th Nov sometime to 00:00:59 UTC 16th December, thereafter).
Please define, in a legally binding manner, pre- and post- 5378.
After which, we may need transitional arrangements for people who
posted in the
middle two time zones, particularly for those who published in the first two
weeks of December, thinking that they had a waiver and now find that they
may
have claimed rights in their Contribution that they will never
possess (because
it contains old text from earlier Contributions).
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