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Re: Let's move on - Let's DNSCurve Re: DNSSEC is NOT secure end to end

2009-06-11 22:35:16

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<a123a5d60906111838t460ca168l9cf797a486ec1cf1(_at_)mail(_dot_)gmail(_dot_)com>, 
Phill
ip Hallam-Baker writes:
So we have totally abandoned the idea of doing DNSSEC in the end point clie=
nt?

        No. Recursive nameserver need to validate the answers
        returned from the DNS for their own uses.  This doesn't
        preclude other applications also validating answers.  Having
        recursive nameserver validate answers is not the end point
        in DNSSEC deployment.  It's just a good first step which
        is good enough is some operational envionments.  There are
        however lots of operational envioronments where this would
        not be good enough and the validation really needs to be
        performed in the application.

        For your light switch example a validating recursive resolver
        is probably all you need.

        For laptops you most probably want to move the validation
        onto the laptop either in the application or by a running
        a validation recursive nameserver on the laptop which may
        or may not use the nameservers in the DHCP response as
        forwarders.  I do this today.

Trust roots have to be valid for at least a decade to be acceptable to
the application vendor community.

        That's a unproved assumption.
 
And even though the current model of network administration is to
constantly fiddle with everything, I think that is going to have to
stop.

        Lots companies already use private roots.  Equipment
        manufactures are not going to build equipment that can't
        be used by those markets.

        Mark

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