I think it was pretty clearly explained that there is much benefit to
retaining the records. Listening to the comments in the plenary I
would indeed say that you were ALMOST alone in thinking otherwise.
As for the "legal risk", it was also explained that the IETF itself
or, rather, the IETF Trust, has never been the "target" of any of the
subphoenas. The only "risk" is that a trust member has to
*occasionally* go dig out some old bluesheets in order to satisfy
the request which typcially have to do with "proving" if person X
was present in meeting Y.
Ole
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On Thu, 30 Jul 2009, Samuel Weiler wrote:
[Sorry for the possible duplicate; my posting from last night hasn't
appeared yet.]
During the plenary yesterday, it came out that the IETF has retained the
working group attendance sheets ("blue sheets") from previous meetings, and
those are occasionally the subject of subpoenas.
In the interest of minimizing IETF overhead and reducing legal risks to
individual participants, I'd like to see those old records destroyed. And,
though there appeared to be a variety of opinions, it sounded like I wasn't
alone in this.
The reason typically given for the attendance lists is planning meeting room
capacity. That purpose could easily be accomplished with a headcount or by
counting the number of names on the attendee list then immediately destroying
the list. Most of us aren't mathematicians by training: we should be able to
count the number of people in the room.
What harms would come from destroying those old records and/or not collecting
such details in the future? And how widespread is the support for destroying
them?
-- Sam
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