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Re: China venue survey

2009-09-22 17:02:35
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On 9/19/09 10:23 AM, Ole Jacobsen wrote:
On Sat, 19 Sep 2009, Yaron Sheffer wrote:

Hi Ole,

The IETF is highly ideological. Probably more so than most other SDOs.

We care deeply about the end to end principle, about net neutrality, 
and (at least in the community I'm a member of) about security. Many 
of our members care a lot about IPR and its effect on open source.

So why when it comes to free speech, which is clearly related to our 
open way of making standards, we suddenly shy away from taking a 
moral stance and instead resort to budgetary calculations?

And regarding the survey: most people, myself included, would bend a 
principle or two to go somewhere as interesting and exciting as 
China. But you would get a radically different answer if you asked: 
should the IETF hold a meeting in a country that mandates a non-free 
speech commitment, or should we prefer an alternative where no such 
commitments are required.

Thanks,
     Yaron


You might get a different answer, but it's ultimately up to the 
individuals who answer the survey. How would you expect our large and 
growing contingent from China to answer that question? Should we ask 
about the policies of the United States, France or Germany on a long 
range of topics (visa, wars, death penalty...)? Where do we draw the 
line?

I think we draw the line at restrictions on our freedom of speech.

Peter

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Peter Saint-Andre
https://stpeter.im/


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