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Re: Tourist or business visa from US?

2010-08-24 18:05:16
perhaps this will muddy the waters some...

http://www.china-embassy.org/eng/hzqz/zgqz/t84247.htm

sez:

Updated: 23/04/2009
  Business Visa (F Visa) is issued to an alien who is invited to China for a 
visit, an investigation, a lecture, to do business, scientific-technological 
and culture exchanges, short-term advanced studies or internship for a period 
of no more than six months.

I.Please submit the following documents for your application:
  1.A valid passport as well as a copy of its information page: Your valid 
passport must have at least six (6) months of remaining validity and at least 
one blank visa page in it. 
  2.Application form: One completed Visa Application Form 
3.Photo: one recent photo of 2x2 squre inch (black & white or color is 
acceptable) glued or stapled on the application form.
    4.First time applicants whose former nationality was Chinese, shall write 
down his Chinese name in the application form and submit his original Chinese  
passport and the photocopy of the information page of the passport. Applicant 
who was formerly Chinese and has acquired a new US passport, if there is a 
Chinese visa in the old passport, shall submit his old US passport and the 
photocopy of the Chinese visa.
  5.Visa Notifications Form from an authorized Chinese Unit, or invitation 
letters from the host company, meeting or exhibition organizers in China, or an 
introduction letter from applicant's US company, etc.

[elided]

----  so it would appear that strictly speaking, a business visa would be in 
order.  Number five seems to suggest an invitation letter from the local 
organizers would be prudent.

as usual, YMMV.

--bill

On 24August2010Tuesday, at 15:34, Mary Barnes wrote:

U.S. customs is the least of my worries in this situation.  In the 15 years 
that I've been attending these sorts of meetings, I've never needed a visa of 
any sort ahead of time. 

Can you please point me to an official website that suggests that there is a 
visa waiver program for us attending the IETF meeting in China? 

Mary. 

On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 3:44 PM, Behcet Sarikaya 
<behcetsarikaya(_at_)yahoo(_dot_)com> wrote:
I agree with Fred.

Many countries we go to attend IETF meetings would probably require "business"
visa but we go there as tourists on a visa waiver program. On the way back as
far as US customs are concerned the purpose is business but US customs never
asks why you did not get a business visa.

Regards,

Behcet



----- Original Message ----
From: todd glassey <tglassey(_at_)earthlink(_dot_)net>
To: ietf(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org
Sent: Tue, August 24, 2010 12:38:00 PM
Subject: Re: Tourist or business visa from US?

On 8/24/2010 8:24 AM, Fred Baker wrote:
In the many times I have visited  China, I have gotten a business visa 
once,
and it was seriously not worth the  effort.

I plan to get a tourist visa.

Except that now  the PRC is looking at the purpose of your trip and that
is to develop  intellectual properties so this is not a personal but
specifically a business  trip.

Does Cisco's legal department condone that Fred?

Todd  Glassey

On Aug 24, 2010, at 7:43 AM, Andrew G. Malis  wrote:

Is there a consensus that a tourist visa is  sufficient to attend the
IETF from the US?

 Thanks,
Andy
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