Given the subject matter, I suspect that the issue has something to do with
net neutrality and the various parties attempting to spin on that particular
issue.
As with many of these layer 8+ issues, what is driving events is not
necessarily the actual capabilities of the technology so much as the
perceived capabilities.
This conversation is not just taking place in IETF. There are international
treaties which bind certain very large authoritarian states to co-operate to
prevent 'information terrorism' (aka free speech) and 'dominance of the
information infrastructure' (aka being the United States, Microsoft, Google,
etc.).
Now there was a time when the idea that the Internet or the Web might have
political implications was to be treated with derision and sarcasm. After
the past six weeks, the political dimension cannot be hidden any longer.
Col Gaddafi is currently murdering his own people for having the temerity to
oppose his misrule. I really don't think we can expect him to shrink from
violating a MUST condition in an RFC. Nor do I think we are going to see
major hardware vendors pass up sales because they will not implement
censorship or control mechanisms (they have not done so to date).
Much better to have a clean separation in my view and let all the folk with
the complicated hidden agendas go elsewhere.
On Mon, Mar 7, 2011 at 10:09 AM, Worley, Dale R (Dale)
<dworley(_at_)avaya(_dot_)com>wrote:
Given the stiff formality of many of the messages on this topic, and the
absence of
description of who did what and why, I suspect the problem is some sort of
a split
regarding what approach (or which particular solution) should be taken in
OAM for
MPLS. And that the two factions were probably backed by different
commercial interests.
And that one faction had the upper hand within the IETF and the other
faction had
the upper hand within the ITU. The former committee was to provide the ITU
faction
with an official or de-facto veto power over the IETF output, so that the
ITU faction's
agreement would be required for "IETF consensus". Eventually, the IETF
faction got sick
of the fact that they weren't going to convert the ITU faction to their
solution, so the
veto arrangement was summarily terminated from the IETF side, and now the
IETF faction
can reach "consensus".
So we will get two standards, one from the IETF and one from the ITU, and
the winner
will be determined in the marketplace. "The great thing about standards is
that there
are so many to choose from!"
Dale
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