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Re: [v6ops] Last Call: <draft-ietf-v6ops-6to4-to-historic-04.txt>(Request to move Connection of IPv6 Domains via IPv4Clouds (6to4) to Historic status) to Informational RFC

2011-06-09 12:28:48
On Jun 9, 2011, at 12:17 PM, Joel Jaeggli wrote:

I don't have a problem with the idea that an Informational document can 
describe the consequences of moving something to Historic.  I have a serious 
problem with the idea that a standards-track document can be moved off of 
the standards track by less than an IETF Consensus process, or by ignoring 
the criteria for standards-track actions.  I haven't seen any evidence that 
IESG is trying to do that - they are doing a Last Call after all.  But I 
don't think we want to set a precedent that removing something from the 
standards track is easier or requires less scrutiny of the technical 
criteria than putting something on the standards track.

The record will show that that the intended status of the document until it 
reached the iegs was standards track. it has been understood from the outset 
that advancement of the document was to obsolete 3056 and 3068. revision 4 at 
the request of the iesg changed th e intented status to informational.

And Informational status *for the document*, if published, is entirely 
appropriate.  But the *protocol action* is a standards-track protocol action.

It used to not be considered necessary to publish an RFC every time the IESG 
approved a protocol action.   Somewhere along the way, having a companion 
document started to be commonplace.  I'm not sure why that got to be 
conventional - maybe it was because of increased use of tracking tools that 
were written with document processing in mind.  And at least sometimes it's 
beneficial to the community to publish an RFC that explains why a particular 
document's status has changed, and how to interpret that change in document 
status.  But RFC 2026 didn't anticipate the need for every protocol action to 
have an associated document, and sometimes - as in this case - it causes 
confusion when they are associated.

Process-wise, I think that the protocol action and the document action should 
be separate items.  Though of course it makes no sense for IESG to approve the 
document if it doesn't approve the protocol action.

Keith

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