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Re: Consensus Call: draft-weil-shared-transition-space-request

2011-12-02 15:24:57
Subject: Re: Consensus Call: draft-weil-shared-transition-space-request Date: 
Fri, Dec 02, 2011 at 04:07:47PM -0500 Quoting Noel Chiappa 
(jnc(_at_)mercury(_dot_)lcs(_dot_)mit(_dot_)edu):

    > Which is v6. 
 
Yes, beating up on IPv4 has been such a success in getting IPv6 deployed,
hasn't it?

There is no beating up. v4 is dead, move on. Building a business plan
on anything else today is going to fail. Except in some walled gardens
where address hoarding has taken place. Like $dayjob, which has a /16 v4
for 4K employees and still has v6 in the backbone and transit and several
peers and if not all so at least several end-user networks dual-stacked.

All it took was 

1. Require v6 support (and at least passable feature parity) in
devices. As long as you're doing POS and Ethernet, a no-brainer. 
Any vendor worth considering will be able to deliver. 

2. Require v6 from transit providers and external peers. Completely
painless. Got bucketloads of offers at last transit call for tender. All
v6-enabled.
 
3. Extend the enterprise provisioning system^H^H^HH^W^W^W ugly script
hack that does router configs to do hex math as well. Took all of a week
including adress planning and test deployments.

Bonus: The Other Desktop Operating System With The Large Market Share
gets extremely happy if it has v6 to play with.

because so far, IPv6 deployment is an abysmal failure.

Not here. 
 
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Måns Nilsson     primary/secondary/besserwisser/machina
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