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Re: Consensus Call: draft-weil-shared-transition-space-request

2011-12-04 08:23:35

I am not sure why 10.64.0.0/10 is being discussed instead of 10.128/10 or 
10.192/10... but let's assume we picked 10.192.0.0/10 instead.  I'm sitting at 
home and my laptop currently has this interface:
        inet 10.2XX.XXX.XXX netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 10.2XX.XXX.XXX

[specific digits replaced with "X" for paranoid reasons in case my IT dept. 
freaks]

Note that's a VPN connection interface not on-the-wire, but it shows at least 
my company uses that space, and I know my company uses 10.x.x.x as well as 
172.16/12 in their various internal HQ and branch office networks.

In fact, this is my laptop's netstat -r output for IPv4 (again somewhat 
anonymized):
default            192.168.1.1        UGSc           12        0     en1
10.3X.XXX/24       link#9             UC              1        0   vnic1
10.3X.XXX.XXX      0:1c:42:0:0:9      UHLWIi          1        5     lo0
10.2XX.XXX/24      link#8             UC              1        0   vnic0
10.2XX.XXX.XXX     0:1c:42:0:0:8      UHLWIi          1        5     lo0
127                localhost          UCS             0        6     lo0
localhost          localhost          UH              0      393     lo0
169.254            link#5             UCS             0        0     en1
172.30.0.0         10.0.XXX.XXX       UH              0        0    gif0
172.30             gif0               USc             1        0    gif0
192.168.1          link#5             UCS             2        0     en1
192.168.1.1        0:12:17:e1:8e:ab   UHLWIi         13        2     en1   1166
192.168.1.102      c4:2c:3:2:c5:ee    UHLWIi          0       39     en1   1179
192.168.1.107      localhost          UHS             1        1     lo0

So you tell me how safe picking a specific RFC 1918 address space is.  There 
are ~100,000 enterprises with over 100 employees just in the US, and ~20,000 
with over 500 employees in the US.  Obviously my company is a tech company so 
it's probably not "normal", but still it seems obvious enterprises use random 
10.x.x.x and 172.16/12.

-hadriel


On Dec 3, 2011, at 6:53 PM, Russ Housley wrote:

Ralph:

Is there evidence that there are deployments today of devices that use 
addresses in 10.64.0.0/10?

I have seen addresses in this space used.

Russ
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