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Re: Future Handling of Blue Sheets

2012-04-24 17:17:33
John C Klensin wrote:

                                     I strongly encourage the
IASA to avoid ever holding an IETF meeting in Germany again
without first obtaining appropriate legal advice that it is
acceptable given our existing conditions to record the names and
identities of anyone participating in any IETF activity,

That does _not_ require a photo.



whether they are explicitly sign something,
are photographed, are identified by RFID,

Keep in mind that if it isn't _voluntary_ consent, it will be legally
void, even with a signature on it.



have their names written down after they say something at a microphone
or on Jabber, raise their hands (presumably in the expectation of being
identified), or can be identified in some other way.

What is wrong about simply archiving the information that participants
are providing voluntarily, such as it has been the last 20 years?


In Germany, an employer is not entitled to have and use a photo or picture
of an employee without explicit, voluntary and anytime revocable
consent of that employee (with very few and very narrow exceptions
carefully scoped by the legislator).  Writing something to a
different effect into the employment contract will be legally void,
because the consent to use the picture MUST be voluntary and
anytime revocable.



Of course, an acceptable alternative to "no meetings in Germany
or any other country with the rules you suggest apply" would be
explicit permission on registration forms as a condition of
attendance.  Or, presumably, a Chair could make an announcement
that anyone who continues to sit in a particular room is giving
permission for such identification.

Please do not confuse any necessity to identify an originator of a
contribution (which is where data protection laws would apply)
and the personal privacy rights of individuals about photos&portraits
of themselves.

-Martin