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Re: FW: Last Call: <draft-leiba-extended-doc-shepherd-00.txt> (Document Shepherding Throughout a Document's Lifecycle) to Informational RFC

2012-09-25 15:51:42
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Good questions all.

IMHO, Independent Stream at most. Or a simple blog post would do. :)

On 9/25/12 1:13 PM, Adrian Farrel wrote:
Hi, I don't understand the process for this document.

I read Russ's  words, but I don't glean the meaning :-(

This document is in IETF last call for publication in the IETF
stream. Yet any comments received will not necessarily be taken on
board and the document will not be published as having IETF
consensus. Why does that feel like Independent Stream to me? And
why is an RFC needed simply to record the thoughts of one person?

Is the purpose of the Last Call simply to help the IESG make its
decision?

Thanks, Adrian (Who has yet to read the document, but feels that he
cannot make any useful comments since the content is the opinion of
one person and he has no idea whether the document correctly
reflects the opinion of that person.)

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[mailto:ietf-announce- bounces(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org] On Behalf Of The IESG 
Sent: 25 September 2012 15:41 To: IETF-Announce Subject: Last
Call: <draft-leiba-extended-doc-shepherd-00.txt> (Document 
Shepherding Throughout a Document's Lifecycle) to Informational
RFC


The IESG has received a request from an individual submitter to
consider the following document: - 'Document Shepherding
Throughout a Document's Lifecycle' 
<draft-leiba-extended-doc-shepherd-00.txt> as Informational RFC

The author is documenting his own opinion, and he is presenting
that opinion to the community for consideration.  The author is
not proposing any formal change, but he is interested in
community comments.  Since this is the authors opinions, changes
to the document based on received comments be at the author's
discretion.  As a result, the finished document will not claim to
reflect IETF community consensus.

The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and
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Abstract

RFC 4858 talks about "Document Shepherding from Working Group
Last Call to Publication".  There's a significant part of a
document's life that happens before working group last call,
starting, really, at the time a working group begins discussing a
version of the idea that's been posted as an individual draft.
It seems reasonable and helpful to begin shepherding when there's
a call for adoption as a working group document, and this
document gives one Area Director's view of how that extended
shepherding function might work, and what tasks might be involved
throughout the document's lifecycle.


The file can be obtained via 
http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-leiba-extended-doc-shepherd/



IESG discussion can be tracked via
http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-leiba-extended-doc-shepherd/ballot/



No IPR declarations have been submitted directly on this I-D.

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