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RE: [mpls] Last Call: <draft-ietf-mpls-ipv6-pw-lsp-ping-03.txt> (LabelSwitched Path (LSP) Ping for IPv6 Pseudowire FECs) toProposed Standard

2012-11-07 06:25:25
Hi Tom,
Many thanks for your comments!
Please see my reply inline with [Mach]

Best regards,
Mach


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From: ietf-bounces(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org [ietf-bounces(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org] on 
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Subject: Re: [mpls] Last Call: <draft-ietf-mpls-ipv6-pw-lsp-ping-03.txt>        
(LabelSwitched Path (LSP) Ping for IPv6 Pseudowire FECs)        toProposed 
Standard

I worry about the allocation of sub-TLVs in this I-D.

It calls for
"The following Sub-TLV changes, which comprise three updates and two
   additions, are made for two TLV Types in the aforementioned sub-
   registry: TLV Type 1 for "Target FEC Stack", and TLV Type 21 for
   "Reply Path"."
and it is the Type 21 that worries me.

[Mach] Since draft-ietf-mpls-return-path-specified-lsp-ping has already defined 
the rule and policy on how to inhirent the sub-TLVs from type 1 TLV, IMHO, here 
it may be no need to explicitly mention how to registry the sub-TLVs for Type 
21. So, how about this:
"The following Sub-TLV changes, which comprise three updates and two additions, 
are made for TLV Type 1."


IANA has, for Type 21,

Reply Path (TEMPORARY - expires 2012-01-20)
[draft-ietf-mpls-return-path-specified-lsp-ping]

and I am unclear what the rules are about updates to expired, TEMPORARY,
allocations.


[Mach] As Loa pointed out, the current IANA registry for Type 21 TLV is not 
reflecting the proposal in [draft-ietf-mpls-return-path-specified-lsp-ping]. 


I worry too that
[draft-ietf-mpls-return-path-specified-lsp-ping]
while confirming the reservation of Type 21 takes a different tack for
sub-TLVs, namely
"
According to the guidelines defined in [RFC5226], the sub-TLV range
   of Reply Path TLV are partitioned as following:
   0-31743 - Reserved, and MUST NOT be allocated."
so quite what this I-D will do to that I-D worries me.

[Mach] This is intended for the Type 21 TLV to have a common part code range 
shared with Type 1 TLV and a TLV specific code range for its own dedicaed 
sub-TLV. I think we should have an agreement on this solution :-)


Best regards,
Mach

And I worry yet more that other I-Ds, such as
draft-zjns-mpls-lsp-ping-relay-reply-00
are heading down the track with further updates in this area of the MPLS
namespace (except that this particular one seems to have abandoned
sub-TLVs).

Tom Petch

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The IESG has received a request from the Multiprotocol Label Switching
WG
(mpls) to consider the following document:
- 'Label Switched Path (LSP) Ping for IPv6 Pseudowire FECs'
  <draft-ietf-mpls-ipv6-pw-lsp-ping-03.txt> as Proposed Standard

The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits
final comments on this action. Please send substantive comments to the
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may
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Abstract

   Multi-Protocol Label Switching (MPLS) Label Switched Path (LSP)
Ping
   and traceroute mechanisms are commonly used to detect and isolate
   data plane failures in all MPLS LSPs including Pseudowire (PW)
LSPs.
   The PW LSP Ping and traceroute elements, however, are not specified
   for IPv6 address usage.

   This document extends the PW LSP Ping and traceroute mechanisms so
   they can be used with IPv6 PWs, and updates RFC 4379.


The file can be obtained via
http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-mpls-ipv6-pw-lsp-ping/

IESG discussion can be tracked via

http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-mpls-ipv6-pw-lsp-ping/ballot/


No IPR declarations have been submitted directly on this I-D.
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