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Re: [mpls] Last Call: <draft-ietf-mpls-ipv6-pw-lsp-ping-03.txt> (LabelSwitched Path (LSP) Ping for IPv6 Pseudowire FECs) toProposed Standard

2012-11-02 14:22:19
Tom,

On Nov 2, 2012, at 2:05 PM, t.p. <daedulus(_at_)btconnect(_dot_)com> wrote:

I worry about the allocation of sub-TLVs in this I-D.


Thanks for the comments. I share worries about keeping synchronicity between 
sub-registries in this fashion.

It calls for
"The following Sub-TLV changes, which comprise three updates and two
  additions, are made for two TLV Types in the aforementioned sub-
  registry: TLV Type 1 for "Target FEC Stack", and TLV Type 21 for
  "Reply Path"."
and it is the Type 21 that worries me.


Right -- the allocations under Type 1 are straightforward. But the allocations 
under Type 21 seem to be standing over quicksand.

IANA has, for Type 21,

Reply Path (TEMPORARY - expires 2012-01-20)
[draft-ietf-mpls-return-path-specified-lsp-ping]

and I am unclear what the rules are about updates to expired, TEMPORARY,
allocations.

I worry too that
[draft-ietf-mpls-return-path-specified-lsp-ping]
while confirming the reservation of Type 21 takes a different tack for
sub-TLVs, namely
"
According to the guidelines defined in [RFC5226], the sub-TLV range
  of Reply Path TLV are partitioned as following:
  0-31743 - Reserved, and MUST NOT be allocated."
so quite what this I-D will do to that I-D worries me.


Perhaps the best approach is to decouple. Have all Type 21 allocations under 
draft-ietf-mpls-return-path-specified-lsp-ping and have that point to the RFC 
from draft-ietf-mpls-ipv6-pw-lsp-ping if needed (and it can take a snapshot of 
the sub-registry when it will be stable.)

Thanks,

-- Carlos.

And I worry yet more that other I-Ds, such as
draft-zjns-mpls-lsp-ping-relay-reply-00
are heading down the track with further updates in this area of the MPLS
namespace (except that this particular one seems to have abandoned
sub-TLVs).

Tom Petch

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The IESG has received a request from the Multiprotocol Label Switching
WG
(mpls) to consider the following document:
- 'Label Switched Path (LSP) Ping for IPv6 Pseudowire FECs'
 <draft-ietf-mpls-ipv6-pw-lsp-ping-03.txt> as Proposed Standard

The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits
final comments on this action. Please send substantive comments to the
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Abstract

  Multi-Protocol Label Switching (MPLS) Label Switched Path (LSP)
Ping
  and traceroute mechanisms are commonly used to detect and isolate
  data plane failures in all MPLS LSPs including Pseudowire (PW)
LSPs.
  The PW LSP Ping and traceroute elements, however, are not specified
  for IPv6 address usage.

  This document extends the PW LSP Ping and traceroute mechanisms so
  they can be used with IPv6 PWs, and updates RFC 4379.


The file can be obtained via
http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-mpls-ipv6-pw-lsp-ping/

IESG discussion can be tracked via

http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-mpls-ipv6-pw-lsp-ping/ballot/


No IPR declarations have been submitted directly on this I-D.
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