On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 4:06 PM, Hector Santos <hsantos(_at_)isdg(_dot_)net>
wrote:
On 7/10/2013 5:17 PM, Josh Howlett wrote:
Day passes have nothing to do with it.
I disagree. Day passes encourage the notion that it's normal to
parachute into the IETF to attend a single session. I think that the
IETF's strength is that we don't totally compartmentalise work items.
I am perplexed that there is, on the one hand, a (valid, IMHO) concern
about increasing IETF diversity & participation, when there appears to be
an active policy of discouraging potential participants who simply wish to
get work done in some specific sessions. Superficially, it would seem that
making participation more flexible and affordable might help to improve
diversity & participation.
Josh.
+1 Thank you. Well said. I had very little limited time but I wanted to
blast by Orlando from Miami (by car) and attend just one day, just to meet
the folks I often have electronic battles with over the years. But the
daily cost was a little too much and I certainly didn't want (nor ready) to
stay an entire week to make it cost effective. Perhaps it is a minor issue
to attract local area interest, since that would be the only advantage for a
daily attendance cost.
It seems to be too much contradictory discussion about diversity. I don't
have too much confidence anything will be improved.
+1
Just because I want to attend all week doesn't mean everybody
else should also want to do the same, or can afford the time and expense.
Back when I was RMONMIB WG Chair, it was difficult to get developers
to attend the IETF. They were too busy implementing the RFCs to
spend an entire week at the IETF. They really didn't want to expand
their horizons and attend extra meetings for WGs they didn't follow.
I think a 1-day pass would have helped a little, since one still has to make
travel plans in advance of the final agenda.
It seems to me that a cheap 1 day pass and ultra-cheap 1 day student pass
would encourage local people to attend their first IETF.
--
HLS
Andy