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Re: Last call: draft-montemurro-gsma-imei-urn-16.txt

2013-07-21 02:04:58

The reason why the IMEI namespace is being registered as a GSMA namespace and 
not as part of the 3GPP namespace is that the GSMA has the responsibility for 
IMEI assignment and hence in maintaining uniqueness of the namespace. It has 
nothing to do with IPR which was extensively discussed on the dispatch list.

The primary purpose of the IMEI is for preventing use of stolen mobile phones 
and enabling emergency calls to be made from mobiles that don't have a valid 
subscription. 

Andrew



----- Original Message -----
From: S Moonesamy [mailto:sm+ietf(_at_)elandsys(_dot_)com]
Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2013 10:48 PM Central Standard Time
To: John C Klensin <john(_at_)jck(_dot_)com>
Cc: Tim Bray <tbray(_at_)textuality(_dot_)com>; ietf(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org 
<ietf(_at_)ietf(_dot_)org>
Subject: Re: Last call: draft-montemurro-gsma-imei-urn-16.txt

Hi John,
At 18:23 20-07-2013, John C Klensin wrote:
See my earlier note, but mostly to aid in getting the
documentation right.  For example, to the extent that the recent
discussion results in a more complete treatment of privacy
and/or security considerations in the documentation, that is a
net improvement and added value.

There was a Last Call for draft-montemurro-gsma-imei-urn-01 in 
2007.  The draft was sponsored by an Apps 
AD.  draft-montemurro-gsma-imei-urn-04 was evaluated (I did not 
verify the details) in 2009.  An IPR disclosure, about a patent filed 
several years ago, was filed after that evaluation.  The DISCUSS got 
cleared automatically.  draft-montemurro-gsma-imei-urn-08  was 
dispatched to RAI in 2011.

3GPP was assigned a URN in 2008.  The shepherd write-up 
for  draft-montemurro-gsma-imei-urn-16 mentions that "this document 
is required for the 3GPP/IMS specification, thus any
vendor that implements the 3GPP specifications follows this 
specification".  The significant difference between the 3GPP URN and 
the requested GSMA URN is that there is an IPR disclosure on that latter.

One of the questions asked by Tim Bray was about the WiFi-only 
scenario.  That was raised previously through a DISCUSS as the softphone issue.

The privacy discussion might cause some discontent.  As for whether 
the draft will gain consensus, well, what can I say; if it is the 
consensus of the IETF to support state-sponsored surveillance there 
is nothing I can do about it. :-)

Regards,
S. Moonesamy 


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